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inside outer limits is a regular feature

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on the paranormal UK radio network

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coming in the air floor first issue of

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Outer Limits magazine for our

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Malcolm Robison presents an article

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outlining the details of his new book

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based on one of Britain's ways UFO

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abduction mysteries the Bob Taylor

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Declan woods abduction incident in this

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new publication Malcolm gives an insight

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into his reasons for taking on the

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mammoth task of investigating and it

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trying to explain the 11 different

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explanations offered by some

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investigators the deck more woods UFO

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encounter an ordinary day an

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extraordinary event it's well worth

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reading

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dr. arena Scott PhD I'm feeling mount

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will present three new articles with

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details of the Pascagoula events new

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witnesses and lays more than three as

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some their suspect pascagoula new

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witnesses come forward plots the blare

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from which Pascagoula UFO encounter and

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Lewis link Judy bragging and more

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Pascagoula witnesses all provided

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exclusively for LA much of this new

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information will be described at the oil

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and 2019 conference so do get you

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details tells after and mr. and mrs.

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Blair this is Blair saw something

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strange in the Pascagoula River the same

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right in town as Calvin practice

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Preston Dainik provides he'll buy aliens

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in which he examines contact with ETS

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which is often portrayed it was a

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frightening and traumatic experience

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while contact can be scary truth is that

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many people report being healed by ETS

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in fact there are now more than 300

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documented cases of UFO eat wings Steve

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Eggman checks out Nazi head secrets on

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the outs active fronts we look up look

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up this nuts the amount of mystery and

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Joseph peafowl rules book we also have

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articles back George Bishop y'see you

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ever myself more reports of UFOs with

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laws and cargo called consciousness

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nichrome Caldecott triangle personal

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Kempston you ago in another Philip

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Kinsella I can see for miles and miles

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and miles by Sean maverick : and do not

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informed body once again and welcome to

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another edition of inside out limits and

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today as always I'm joined by my co-host

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mr. Philip mantle the lead man the top

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dog flying dis press good evening Chris

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yeah I have to be the top dog there's

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only me in it but that means you at your

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top teed Tina and your top editor and

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top designer so then I'm the boss in

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this house and my wife I've got my

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well we've got a very interesting show

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lined up this evening and/or today

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depending where you are in the world and

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I'm actually talking with my old cohort

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from there the alta nowhere radio show

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which is my co-host from that mr. Paul

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Sinclair hello Paul I'm good thank you

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Chris and hello Philip and I want to

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really call yourself a bit of a co-host

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really I think I soon discovered that

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you were better suited to this than me

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yeah I want you for allowing me to say a

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few words and talk about what's

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that's absolutely Fran Paul absolutely

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so since we last spoke Paul on the air

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on the radio as it we're what's been

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going on what have you been up to well

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as you know and probably Phillip as well

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we never really switch off from subject

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doing and I've found myself involved in

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a really absolutely riveting case I

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think I'll be talking about this at

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I was gonna talk originally about

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my own experiences book we are going

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into it just feels a bit weird talking

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about and I have done on radio at times

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but I don't know about that in front of

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people but I've geared up I started a

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PowerPoint to do that anyway I'm not

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living on that it's about the location

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about nine miles from where I'm sat now

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called woman be I'm sure both your guys

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will be familiar with it the sort of

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geography of this place it's in-between

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Bridlington and scarborough just set in

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land off coast about three miles inland

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and on Monday just tell you what the

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name signifies pond man clam stead of

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the hound man which is interesting in

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itself we're not going to do cryptids

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today I don't think or simply because

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it's three miles from where all the

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stories originated the flicks turn

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werewolf and we've got a place here in

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ancient times called lund man and he

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actually does mean farmstead of the

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hound man look let me just carry on with

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the story sorry guys so I found out

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about the story quite by accident an

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ex-military man old runs the finances of

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a of a working man's club in Colombia

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what having some guys paint the club for

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him they were doing painting and

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decorating and I actually know the

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painted painters and decorators who

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lived very close to me and one of the

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lads used to work with me more for me

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probably ten years ago his son and this

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is what's that amazing they've sat on

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this story or his dad as mandrel that's

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his real name it allowed me to record

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him he sat on this story for over 20

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years and even though they've known me

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or when this story happened him knew

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that I had an avid interest in this

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subject of the unexplained and UFOs just

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like we all do or listening to this

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never told me because he was so it it

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had gone into the cells with it it was

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they didn't want to share it with

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anybody not out of any kind of greed

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just the ridicule factor so did the

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painting the public the club and they

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gets talking to Jim this guy and

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was ex-military and he's got an interest

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in UFOs and things and subject to UFOs

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must have come up and young David the

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son said why don't you tell Jim what

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happened to you at home on day so he's

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dead a bit reluctant told him this story

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well

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unbeknown to Andrew the witness he

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didn't know I knew Jim I hope I'm not

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confusing people here he didn't know I

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knew the guy who was in charge of the

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finances and Jim immediately said you

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must tell Paul Sinkler well the you know

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Kerching and Jill thought well actually

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only lives around corner from me and

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I've known him over 20 years and never

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told him but it couldn't wriggle out of

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it so I've got old of the story and I

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asked him do if he would share it with

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me and I went up to his home and I would

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think about two months ago three months

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ago a SAP for over two hours with voice

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recorder and I spoke to him since and I

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spoke to all three witnesses since and

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got this incredible story

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so in 1996-1997 these guys when we'll

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call him real name and your real name

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Dave different name Steve and Joe and

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Dave worked for Steve he doesn't want

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his name involved in this but I off

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spoke to him face to face

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it's very reluctant so I've changed his

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name even though I'm not giving a second

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a surname and they worked for Steve on

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the Industrial Estate in this big unique

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this big workshop 96 97 98 the three

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year period on a night it was a second

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job so they would do their day jobs in

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Bridlington or around the local area and

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then in the evenings that travel throw

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to humbie and sometimes they'd work till

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11 o'clock at night and the all the guys

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say sometimes would work till 3:00 in

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the morning and on a weekend we might

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actually work through the night it were

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quite lucrative they were the good

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quality craftsmen Andrews was a sign

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writer off still is the other guy

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sprayed their claws and the boss Steve

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sprayed

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I quality vehicles nameless and mgs and

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they got open-top buses into sign right

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and restore so and fairground rides

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where they put all the pictures on so

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you get an idea of what they were doing

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now I need to go through an hour or so

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so I want to describe the unit because

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it's important so huge building with

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Lola shuttered doors on it

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Trump's him back that you could drive a

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double-decker bus in and out the other

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side and a huge car park and rough scrub

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area at the back or at least it was in

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1990 six seven and eight he saw the

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Industrial Estate grown since then as

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people can imagine so to the story every

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night these get off and Dave's mum and

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dad used to come most nights of the week

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from bridlington and spend a few hours

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ah stores with their son maybe bring

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sandwiches I don't know in a flask and

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talk to the guys and then they traveled

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that probably 10:30 back home to Britain

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they just used to come and that's that

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was that these these two er the ill and

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they don't want to talk about it they've

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been asked and they won't they won't

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discuss it book I've got the son's

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version of what happened to that they

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were witness to a lot of the things so

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in 1996 in June the these guys have

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dated all this they know the approximate

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years or the years but they kept they

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don't know the exact timing junik

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started what about June Andrew was in

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the workshop alone the other two hadn't

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arrived and it's just a big open

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workshop were in the bottom right hand

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corner there was a small toilet block

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above that there was Steve's office and

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above that probably an eight to ten foot

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space just area where they were stored

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all sorts of rubbish and things and it

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was a former engineering unit so there

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was nuts and bolts and washers in little

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boxes all over the place that's that

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become key in a while so he sat doing a

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bit of sign writing on his own in June

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and in the corner is I he just caught

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something which he thought moved off the

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roof above the the office a piece of

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wood piece of four bit to about two foot

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long just blow straight pasties

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then he looked there's no one else in

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there's a few vehicles in the place and

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he sort of carries on working he didn't

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hit him he didn't hit a vehicle and he's

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just thinking there's somebody up there

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and he sort of got a wry smile on his

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face I mean they're in the 60s now these

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guys but you know that it's fit enough

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to climb up on a ladder if he wanted to

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then I suppose he still is now but he's

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just kept an eye on it and then he is a

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at the side of the unit you picture the

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corrugated sheeting of the unit made

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quite a bang and he thought what the

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hell's that then he looked to his right

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and you do realize guys I'm saying he

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looks to his right he could have looked

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to his left look what I'm saying is he

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looked but as he looked there's a bang

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at the opposite side and he is a

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tinkling sound and his he's intrigued

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he's not nervous at this stage but he's

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intrigued and then the other two arrive

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and he realizes it weren't them when he

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says some strange things have been

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happening he tells him that things have

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been like a piece of what's flown past

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him and he thinks he's come off that

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roof space so they get a ladder and they

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gingerly as a look over the top and

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there's just nothing there you know

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little light bulbs and washes and bits

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and bats but nothing of any significance

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and that's the night basically and then

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Dave's mom and dad arrive and they tell

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them then the next night they're more

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whacks on the side of the building and

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they've got to investigate mrs. steel

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washer and it's just projected from some

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ways it's launched itself through the

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through the air nobody sees where they

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come from on what the side of the

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building the bear in mind that it's

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completely enclosed this building so

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there's there's nothing that you know

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anybody could throw at them and this

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continue this sort of built up this this

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bizarre activity which they didn't know

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what to attributed to and they were this

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autumn it was sort of drip fed to him to

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such a degree that they became

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accustomed to it and the few of the labs

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in you

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it's close by they told him strange

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things were happening but nobody else

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had experienced it by Dave and Andy

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Steve and Dave's mum and dad so it got

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to the light bulbs would suddenly go

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bright in the workshop and give these

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big big but sort of dogs of hanging

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above on strips and then the power would

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cut but these words of the words of all

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three people I spoke to the radio would

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carry on plane and it wasn't on some

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kind of thing where to just trip the

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lice

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everything had gone they don't plug it

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and the radio continued to play yes

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which is impossible any guys we know

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this but that's what the telling me

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happened so this this sort of carried on

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and you know they got through the year

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it sort of built and built so got June

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July and August and it sort of peaked in

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August they've got lots of activity lots

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of things suddenly outside there was a

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gravelled area for the cows at the front

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but somehow the gravel would just drop

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in front of them inside the uni and then

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gravel had dropped behind them and or a

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coffee Jared just appeared from the air

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and I don't mean thrown at him it had

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just dropped to the floor so they were

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all absolutely enthralled they found it

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quite exciting as it was happening that

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this invisible force were moving things

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around in the workshop and another

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interesting thing none of these things

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seem possible but knowing the integrity

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of Angela as I do I can't believe that

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we've got three men now Phillip and

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Chris that of yeah actually spotted have

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not spoke to each other these guys in 10

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to 15 years when I spoke to Andrew he

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didn't even know that any contact

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details for the former boss but we

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managed to get him and I've been and

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spoken to him so there was a calendar on

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the wall from the former occupants the

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engineering you

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like if you know what I mean a boobie

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calendar a paper one and they all pick

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the old guys I suppose no such a

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red-blooded men do and they're looking

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at this calendar maybe a bit sexist and

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the pick the favorite month and whatever

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you but every time they came in it was

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an August they all agree everyone that's

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what got to old with guys separately and

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they all say somehow this calendar used

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to go back to August which once again is

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impossible it implies being taken off

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the wall and then turned or the radio

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being unplugged when it's running off

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the mains and still still going it just

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doesn't seem possible I and I agree with

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all what I'm supposed to say and I'm not

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contradicting myself but I'm going on

369
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the word of three men all in the sixties

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that have experienced this and this

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guy's mum and dad

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so this lists unexplained phenomena

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continued till the end of 90 till August

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1996 and then it just sent to cease it

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petered out so they worked through to

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1997 and in June 1997 as you can guess

377
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what I'm gonna say it started again

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washers just all sorts of things

379
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bouncing off the walls you know you know

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in all directions and nobody saw

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anything that's what's interesting in

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the ad as I said earlier they're high

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class motor vehicles in this workshop to

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be sprayed and nothing ever got damaged

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that's nobody got hit well we'll come to

386
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that one but nobody got hit at this

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stage and nothing got damaged the light

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bulbs would explode you're bright and

389
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explode in the workshop and you think

390
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well there's been some kind of power

391
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surge this is something along with the

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electrical circuit of the workshop

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however to sort of contradict all that

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the radio always played when it were

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plugged into the mains and the unplugged

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it it's still played it changed channels

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on it sold all sorts of things all three

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men no contact with each other are all

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telling me the same story I've been to

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haven't I've recorded two of them the

401
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guy we've changed his name didn't want

402
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to be recorded

403
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and on an evening then in 1997 that

404
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plant their vehicles outside and they'd

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come outside

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and the bill little neat piles of gravel

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on the Blahniks which they couldn't

408
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understand you know cuz they'd go

409
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obviously somebody could be doing this

410
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well there's nobody in the workshop this

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projecting these these steel washes

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about and doing the doing all this and

413
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they said they came out one night and

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all the cars had huge animal prints on

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them said like like a dog print but as

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big as a human now guys I'm only

417
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relating what I've been told I didn't

418
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expect to be told a cabin copy story of

419
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all three men who have not had

420
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interaction with each other for so long

421
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what that's what they're telling me and

422
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they haven't a clue the Blahniks weren't

423
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damaged the roofs of the car weren't

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damaged and it implied something big of

425
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being on these vehicles but there's

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animal prints on on the vehicles so did

427
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all of this sort of continued and then

428
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mid-1997 excuse me Steve rented off a

429
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part of the the area of land at the back

430
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of the workshop because it was a huge

431
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area of parking we could get lorries and

432
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other vehicles but at the back of that

433
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which was still part of his building

434
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where scrubland so well

435
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the guy I'm told who wanted to strip

436
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down caravans and sell parts you know

437
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:25,390
reclaimed Caravan parts so while they're

438
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clearing the land they found a grave a

439
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grave marker

440
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we'll call I want to call it a

441
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gravestone but it were made of wood so

442
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what would it be called digit do so I've

443
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called it a grave marker and it were

444
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dated the eighteen hundred's and the the

445
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it were inscribed with a little girl's

446
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name of the note were a child so from

447
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that Norman they attributed this

448
00:20:58,590 --> 00:20:54,610
activity to apologized that's that's

449
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what they perceived all this excited

450
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energy and things moving around the

451
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workshop the reasons for it was Jim

452
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they're saying what you know

453
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was a poltergeist I mean I'm not saying

454
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it wasn't

455
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I'm just we'll get to more of this in a

456
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minute so laughs they found it they

457
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found this grave and they said they

458
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didn't have a lot of respect for it

459
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which is a bit sad really and they

460
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didn't say it flippantly they said be in

461
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them days we just moved it about the

462
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workshop and everything that happened

463
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would go a bit of a you know a brilliant

464
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flash of light or in the workshop or

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with a bulb would burst and the powered

466
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girl often would just say oh it's the

467
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poltergeist and although one other thing

468
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as well that Dave picked up on and I did

469
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confirm it with the other two he said

470
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well what times whilst traveling to

471
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Hermon be an odd times whilst driving

472
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home and always driving home at late at

473
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night he said suddenly there'd be a

474
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flash of light just a split second and

475
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it would be daylight and then it had

476
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begun I don't know what kind of energy

477
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could produce that that he said with it

478
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because he know he could be lightning or

479
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sheet lightning but he said there's

480
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another odd thing he said I cannot

481
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sometimes remember driving there and I

482
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consumed and I remember driving home and

483
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being on the road and suddenly been on

484
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the road driving home and thinking I

485
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don't remember her arriving and I don't

486
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remember doing anything there I can

487
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remember going and I can remember going

488
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back and I've just broke into a story a

489
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little bit there from the from the

490
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others things but I think it's worth

491
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noting at this stage so you know because

492
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it may be connected but he can't

493
00:22:41,459 --> 00:22:39,159
remember anything in between and I asked

494
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Andrew and asked Steve if they they'd

495
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had any experience of this period of

496
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missing time like David and they they

497
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haven't or they've no recall of it

498
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they've recall of the Lund lighting up

499
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like daylight just got a blink but none

500
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of this missing time or apparent missing

501
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time so nobody believed them no you know

502
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I they told people around the work the

503
00:23:07,859 --> 00:23:05,409
neighboring workshops and what were

504
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happening but nobody really believed

505
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them says there on one occasion they

506
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were inside workshop with the customers

507
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we were all sat in the front of a

508
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recovery truck all four of us

509
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so this big recovery truck and we sat

510
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there and there's a customer talking to

511
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us we discussing what we're gonna do he

512
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says and there's a bang on side at work

513
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top the workshop he says in this guy

514
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looked he says none of us said anything

515
00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:33,510
this is and then the suddenly there's

516
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another one and then there's another it

517
00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:37,710
says in this guide he said what's that

518
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:40,350
this as always just poltergeist don't

519
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:42,570
worry doesn't it it says and that's how

520
00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:44,730
flip them to now blase they were about

521
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:47,400
it but obviously people this were

522
00:23:51,710 --> 00:23:48,570
happening and they were telling people

523
00:23:53,180 --> 00:23:51,720
these things and they got that's why

524
00:23:55,070 --> 00:23:53,190
they went into the cells because they

525
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:55,080
got labeled as being a bit crazy

526
00:24:00,560 --> 00:23:58,010
ya know yeah you know do you know that

527
00:24:02,570 --> 00:24:00,570
there's three nut cases there I mean and

528
00:24:05,710 --> 00:24:02,580
Dave's mom and dad experienced this as

529
00:24:08,030 --> 00:24:05,720
well he said there was another time I

530
00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:08,040
opened up boring you with this guy's cuz

531
00:24:12,740 --> 00:24:11,340
I'm told that coming on increase he said

532
00:24:15,410 --> 00:24:12,750
there's another time he said we had an

533
00:24:20,299 --> 00:24:15,420
mg roadster in and we're all in the

534
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:20,309
workshop all three of us and the keys

535
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:22,650
are in the ignition and this mg just

536
00:24:28,190 --> 00:24:25,290
started on its own all three of them

537
00:24:29,930 --> 00:24:28,200
have said this the cast started up he

538
00:24:33,169 --> 00:24:29,940
said for a moment we all sort of run

539
00:24:35,090 --> 00:24:33,179
outside we couldn't believe it but we

540
00:24:36,650 --> 00:24:35,100
went back in he said and Steve the boss

541
00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:36,660
when he says they took the keys out of

542
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:38,910
the ignition turned it off as well tried

543
00:24:43,910 --> 00:24:41,520
to ibly didn't stop they had to pull the

544
00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:43,920
bonnet and disconnect summer on the car

545
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:47,580
to actually finally stop the engine and

546
00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:49,530
they called the auto electrician I'm

547
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:51,750
trying to get put the point of her about

548
00:24:57,380 --> 00:24:54,960
why they've been so quiet about this and

549
00:24:58,970 --> 00:24:57,390
they relayed the story to the RTO

550
00:25:01,220 --> 00:24:58,980
electrician and what exactly had

551
00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:01,230
happened and he just laughed at him and

552
00:25:04,460 --> 00:25:02,670
put the word about that they were

553
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:04,470
careers in the saying all sorts of

554
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:09,450
things and you know it's just total the

555
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:11,490
total nuts because these things can't

556
00:25:19,180 --> 00:25:16,650
happen so the caravan guys there was one

557
00:25:22,790 --> 00:25:19,190
man that lived in a caravan on the back

558
00:25:24,770 --> 00:25:22,800
and one day this is Steve recalled this

559
00:25:26,570 --> 00:25:24,780
one to me the boss he said he actually

560
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:26,580
got quite stroppy with me and we ended

561
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:28,570
up having a massive argument

562
00:25:33,370 --> 00:25:30,650
because he came to us he said I'm

563
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,380
absolutely fed up of the radios going on

564
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:35,840
on the Cass plat out the back little doe

565
00:25:42,220 --> 00:25:38,960
locked cars packed at the back on a

566
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:42,230
night raid multiple radios are going off

567
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:44,510
on the starting and playing music on

568
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:48,170
these cars horns are beeping all this

569
00:25:52,930 --> 00:25:50,530
activity is happening well obviously

570
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:52,940
Steve couldn't do anything about it

571
00:25:56,290 --> 00:25:54,770
apart from just say well what do you

572
00:25:58,690 --> 00:25:56,300
want me to do we've told you the strange

573
00:26:01,570 --> 00:25:58,700
activity around in and around the unit

574
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:01,580
but II were elds somehow responsible for

575
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:03,530
this and you know the word got about

576
00:26:08,890 --> 00:26:06,080
that they were to blame for it well

577
00:26:11,610 --> 00:26:08,900
obviously you know they weren't it was

578
00:26:14,740 --> 00:26:11,620
it would like some strange invisible

579
00:26:17,530 --> 00:26:14,750
paranormal coating were all over this

580
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:17,540
area in nineteen ninety six seven and

581
00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:22,910
eight so once again in August things

582
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:26,870
seemed to dissipate and go back to

583
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:29,360
normal and you know sort of normal life

584
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:32,450
is resumed now I haven't got to 1998

585
00:26:35,950 --> 00:26:34,490
here and you might not want to add your

586
00:26:37,870 --> 00:26:35,960
comments but I just want to know what

587
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:37,880
what your perceived of this at the

588
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:40,610
moment Phil applaud Chris well the only

589
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:46,130
thing I remember is something not not as

590
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:48,970
active as that but it was my my

591
00:26:56,590 --> 00:26:54,170
brother-in-law telling me about one of

592
00:26:58,690 --> 00:26:56,600
his friends houses and their TV used to

593
00:27:02,260 --> 00:26:58,700
come on me even when it won't plugged in

594
00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:02,270
and you know that's the only thing I can

595
00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:05,030
I can say about being anything similar

596
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:09,470
yeah I mean we've all you know heard

597
00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:14,080
about poltergeist activity there's some

598
00:27:20,620 --> 00:27:16,700
speculation that you know such activity

599
00:27:23,230 --> 00:27:20,630
would be related to a person that's you

600
00:27:26,170 --> 00:27:23,240
know perhaps approaching he'll be saying

601
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,180
puberty yeah and there was a famous case

602
00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:28,640
I believe it was in I believe it was

603
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:31,790
Austria and and things weren't getting

604
00:27:36,010 --> 00:27:33,530
thrown around but the light bulbs were

605
00:27:38,860 --> 00:27:36,020
going and things like that and they had

606
00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:38,870
a huge chandelier in their offices that

607
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:41,630
used to swing but they had a young lady

608
00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:42,970
work

609
00:27:49,780 --> 00:27:46,550
and she was reaching that age and they

610
00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:49,790
got a phone bill now listen and it was a

611
00:27:54,490 --> 00:27:51,350
huge phone bill so they've got a

612
00:27:56,770 --> 00:27:54,500
printout of all the numbers and this is

613
00:27:58,990 --> 00:27:56,780
the days of the old dial numbers you

614
00:28:02,440 --> 00:27:59,000
know yeah not like the mobile things we

615
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,450
have now and the phone was dialing this

616
00:28:07,780 --> 00:28:04,880
particular number faster than you could

617
00:28:10,450 --> 00:28:07,790
actually do it yourself you know so you

618
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:10,460
couldn't spin the dial and spin the dial

619
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:12,170
again and stick your finger and keep

620
00:28:17,380 --> 00:28:15,170
going and I think you know they put it

621
00:28:18,820 --> 00:28:17,390
down to her but with this instance that

622
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,830
you're talking here you've got you know

623
00:28:24,850 --> 00:28:20,720
grown men there's there's no youngsters

624
00:28:27,310 --> 00:28:24,860
there of that of that nature so it's a

625
00:28:31,540 --> 00:28:27,320
low say it's it's it's bizarre and

626
00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:31,550
fascinating in equal measures Paul yeah

627
00:28:34,780 --> 00:28:32,600
I don't know whether you've got

628
00:28:37,660 --> 00:28:34,790
experience of this Chris book he said I

629
00:28:39,490 --> 00:28:37,670
don't when we get when you get to 1998

630
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:39,500
you might start thinking different than

631
00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:41,930
the Balto guys that these guys were on

632
00:28:47,290 --> 00:28:44,150
on the same page I mean with the

633
00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:47,300
poltergeist and I'm due to finding the

634
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:50,720
grave marker however yeah that's Annette

635
00:28:55,150 --> 00:28:53,090
was my own experience which I think I've

636
00:28:57,820 --> 00:28:55,160
actually related to you once before Paul

637
00:29:01,000 --> 00:28:57,830
was there walking down the road with

638
00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:01,010
myself my wife were two stepchildren and

639
00:29:06,250 --> 00:29:04,070
I was walking next to an edge and which

640
00:29:08,350 --> 00:29:06,260
had metal railings next to it was also

641
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:08,360
out an old Victorian school in the whole

642
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:10,640
area was on Queens Road in Hall if

643
00:29:17,290 --> 00:29:14,480
anybody really wants to know and this

644
00:29:19,230 --> 00:29:17,300
metal these metal railings had a privet

645
00:29:21,550 --> 00:29:19,240
edge behind them which was approximately

646
00:29:25,330 --> 00:29:21,560
three to three and a half foot wide

647
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:25,340
something like that and walking along

648
00:29:30,820 --> 00:29:28,610
and something grabbed me on my right

649
00:29:34,690 --> 00:29:30,830
shoulder and actually pulled me back I

650
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:34,700
actually felt like a hound it grabbed me

651
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:37,130
on my right and Philips I was walking

652
00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:39,170
right next to thee to the fence there

653
00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:41,180
and they actually pulled me back with

654
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:43,550
such force it stopped me in my tracks

655
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:45,290
I loved obviously I wondered what the

656
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:48,320
heck was going on and I'm ready to jump

657
00:29:52,570 --> 00:29:50,330
around and slap somebody and there was

658
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:52,580
nothing there absolutely nobody there so

659
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:54,450
I would put that down

660
00:29:59,659 --> 00:29:56,850
to some kind of poltergeist experience

661
00:30:02,690 --> 00:29:59,669
at the temple altar guys does mean and

662
00:30:04,729 --> 00:30:02,700
noisy spirit you know it's from an old

663
00:30:07,489 --> 00:30:04,739
German word and they are known for

664
00:30:10,430 --> 00:30:07,499
throwing things around eating people

665
00:30:11,869 --> 00:30:10,440
you know moving furniture and and all

666
00:30:14,019 --> 00:30:11,879
that kind of stuff but you've intrigued

667
00:30:18,259 --> 00:30:14,029
me more because you've not mentioned

668
00:30:23,379 --> 00:30:18,269
1998 yeah I want to know what 1998 is

669
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:23,389
sort of the culmination of it all and

670
00:30:28,430 --> 00:30:26,159
they've just said like I've just said

671
00:30:31,369 --> 00:30:28,440
they attributed everything to the to the

672
00:30:33,139 --> 00:30:31,379
grave marker it's a pity thee they

673
00:30:35,389 --> 00:30:33,149
didn't take a picture of it I've got

674
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,399
some pictures at unit coming Dave took

675
00:30:39,139 --> 00:30:37,200
so many work actually work there all

676
00:30:40,879 --> 00:30:39,149
those years ago so I'll get an idea

677
00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:40,889
inside I've been to unit and took

678
00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:43,049
pictures of it as it is today and spoke

679
00:30:48,259 --> 00:30:45,720
to the new occupants this probably been

680
00:30:51,879 --> 00:30:48,269
more than one lot since 1998 what

681
00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:51,889
they've never experienced anything but

682
00:30:58,489 --> 00:30:55,080
1998 June once again the calendar

683
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:58,499
changing to two August all guys all the

684
00:31:04,249 --> 00:31:01,200
guys stressed this I mean as much as we

685
00:31:06,499 --> 00:31:04,259
might trying to visualize this in his

686
00:31:09,049 --> 00:31:06,509
mind and imagine how it could physically

687
00:31:11,479 --> 00:31:09,059
change a peat a paper calendar that's

688
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:11,489
probably wrong I would think up into a

689
00:31:15,919 --> 00:31:14,369
wall is it is beyond me but that's what

690
00:31:18,349 --> 00:31:15,929
they're saying and the steel washers

691
00:31:20,509 --> 00:31:18,359
hitting the walls and no one appearing

692
00:31:22,849 --> 00:31:20,519
to get hurt but they blaming it on the

693
00:31:25,999 --> 00:31:22,859
poltergeist so it started slowly once

694
00:31:30,769 --> 00:31:26,009
again in June what there was an added

695
00:31:34,369 --> 00:31:30,779
element in in 1998 and money started to

696
00:31:36,409 --> 00:31:34,379
fall from the air old morning I think

697
00:31:37,450 --> 00:31:36,419
nothing they could spend really and

698
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:37,460
pesetas

699
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:41,519
in front of them and behind them the

700
00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:43,440
radio as we've said would change

701
00:31:49,849 --> 00:31:46,409
channels and suddenly go loud you know

702
00:31:51,259 --> 00:31:49,859
and I won't say they were sick of it but

703
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:51,269
they probably by this time they were

704
00:31:56,659 --> 00:31:52,769
actually sick of the attention that

705
00:31:58,419 --> 00:31:56,669
they'd received from people I think we

706
00:32:00,859 --> 00:31:58,429
both we've all experienced this

707
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:00,869
yourselves and listeners who are

708
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:02,849
interested in the subject of UFOs and

709
00:32:06,409 --> 00:32:04,769
you mention it and you gotta do you

710
00:32:07,790 --> 00:32:06,419
mention it too because if you didn't so

711
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:07,800
if you wouldn't

712
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:10,050
close to some narrow-minded sarcastic

713
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:15,690
devil it's known as the rigging yeah

714
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:17,690
well you know and so the so they they

715
00:32:21,530 --> 00:32:19,710
suffered this and I think they'd had

716
00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:21,540
enough of it so they put the grave

717
00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:23,820
marker outside burn in mind it

718
00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:25,620
originally was in the field when they

719
00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:27,030
were clearing the scrubland but they put

720
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:29,100
it outside outside the bat roller should

721
00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:33,930
two doors close to them and they're sort

722
00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:35,580
of working in the unique one evening

723
00:32:39,910 --> 00:32:37,140
because all their work a platform on a

724
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:39,920
weekend was after six or seven o'clock

725
00:32:44,270 --> 00:32:42,330
and he's leaning up against these doors

726
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:44,280
and they've all said this I said there's

727
00:32:47,540 --> 00:32:46,410
a huge bang on the unit I don't know

728
00:32:50,420 --> 00:32:47,550
whether they said there were one or two

729
00:32:52,610 --> 00:32:50,430
bangs but they likened it and you can

730
00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:52,620
picture the thin steel of the roller

731
00:32:55,910 --> 00:32:54,120
sort of didn't make a big whack if you

732
00:32:58,580 --> 00:32:55,920
hit them with a baseball bat and that's

733
00:33:00,140 --> 00:32:58,590
what they likened it to bang so they do

734
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:00,150
this huge noise and they knew it went

735
00:33:04,790 --> 00:33:02,970
outside the grave marker so they went

736
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:04,800
down to investigate the doors gingerly

737
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:05,730
because they thought somebody had

738
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:07,770
whacked the doors outside at the back of

739
00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:10,650
the unit but would unbelievably the

740
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:14,340
grave mark of the said was inside then

741
00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:18,240
took on the inside so all three of them

742
00:33:22,850 --> 00:33:20,190
have said this and they said we weed

743
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:22,860
that we never saw any one movie we never

744
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:24,510
moved it and that's what they're saying

745
00:33:28,930 --> 00:33:26,210
and then they said there's another time

746
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:28,940
we've got an open-topped busing for

747
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:32,250
thought restoration spraying and sign

748
00:33:37,790 --> 00:33:35,490
writing and Angela said that he was

749
00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:37,800
working on and he was sign writing and

750
00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:39,960
suddenly the light above the open top

751
00:33:45,710 --> 00:33:42,540
boss which is interesting because one of

752
00:33:49,730 --> 00:33:45,720
you guys has just mentioned a light when

753
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:49,740
very bright it was a huge strip strip

754
00:33:55,730 --> 00:33:51,570
with more than one light onic not a

755
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:55,740
strip light and it fell into the bus it

756
00:34:00,620 --> 00:33:58,170
just went very bright the light and the

757
00:34:02,390 --> 00:34:00,630
pole lot the strict light just fell into

758
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:02,400
the top of the bus made a right mess

759
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:04,530
they'd said I don't whether it damaged

760
00:34:08,060 --> 00:34:05,610
anything what obviously can you imagine

761
00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:08,070
it's made a mess with that the powers

762
00:34:13,370 --> 00:34:10,919
cooked but the radio continues to play

763
00:34:16,970 --> 00:34:13,380
which is plugged in and unplugged it's

764
00:34:20,150 --> 00:34:16,980
still plane so this is this is becoming

765
00:34:21,069 --> 00:34:20,160
a bit disturbing for me it's gone from

766
00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:21,079
being a

767
00:34:28,220 --> 00:34:25,950
they're upset about this and especially

768
00:34:30,379 --> 00:34:28,230
Steve because he's got these iron motor

769
00:34:33,889 --> 00:34:30,389
vehicles in and he's not he's thinking

770
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:33,899
something's gonna get damaged so they

771
00:34:38,089 --> 00:34:36,089
decided to cut they don't know which one

772
00:34:39,619 --> 00:34:38,099
of them called the church he could have

773
00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:39,629
even been Dave's mum and dad

774
00:34:43,129 --> 00:34:41,250
that's what that's what they're thinking

775
00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:43,139
because nobody can remember all called

776
00:34:49,609 --> 00:34:45,780
the church or the Undertaker's but they

777
00:34:52,099 --> 00:34:49,619
came he says and the guy said took one

778
00:34:53,659 --> 00:34:52,109
look at this grave marker then what all

779
00:34:55,069 --> 00:34:53,669
three of them have agreed on this one as

780
00:34:59,690 --> 00:34:55,079
well that he was horrified when he

781
00:35:02,420 --> 00:34:59,700
looked at it it just disturbed him that

782
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:02,430
was tickin I've run the church and the

783
00:35:06,770 --> 00:35:04,410
looking into records for me because

784
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:06,780
apparently he's been buried in the

785
00:35:10,309 --> 00:35:08,310
church at home and they are buried in

786
00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:10,319
the grounds of the church woman be this

787
00:35:14,750 --> 00:35:13,380
marker I've not got any further with

788
00:35:17,630 --> 00:35:14,760
that yeah I've left it with them they've

789
00:35:19,579 --> 00:35:17,640
got back to me once already but I've

790
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:19,589
given a bit little bit more information

791
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:23,490
that the vicar there but so that's what

792
00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:25,770
they attributed all that this phenomena

793
00:35:31,309 --> 00:35:28,230
for and they actually thought you know

794
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:31,319
this is this is we're probably going to

795
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,290
cure it all well obviously didn't I mean

796
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:36,240
I got to thinking guys just jumping from

797
00:35:42,980 --> 00:35:39,930
this amount that this sort of blanket of

798
00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:42,990
paranormal activity is probably similar

799
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:45,240
to what's been happening at Benton and

800
00:35:49,609 --> 00:35:47,760
in places you've researched Philip and

801
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,619
knew Chris you know when you play you

802
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:52,160
get lots of such a multi-faceted

803
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:54,660
phenomena roles that shouldn't be

804
00:35:58,910 --> 00:35:56,730
connected but must be connected because

805
00:36:01,609 --> 00:35:58,920
it's happening around the same time in

806
00:36:04,670 --> 00:36:01,619
the same proximity do you know what I

807
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:04,680
mean and I know exactly what you mean

808
00:36:10,099 --> 00:36:06,890
pull up just been discussing earlier

809
00:36:12,829 --> 00:36:10,109
this week and I think the problem

810
00:36:15,470 --> 00:36:12,839
therein lies that you're going and

811
00:36:16,819 --> 00:36:15,480
you'll be talking to of them about a UFO

812
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:16,829
sighting that's what you're primarily

813
00:36:23,809 --> 00:36:21,089
there about but not all the time but

814
00:36:26,089 --> 00:36:23,819
there are occasions when if you dig a

815
00:36:28,579 --> 00:36:26,099
little bit further or just by by

816
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:28,589
accident I think you're finding these

817
00:36:34,730 --> 00:36:32,130
areas these locations so all this weird

818
00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:34,740
and wonderful stuff is is taking place

819
00:36:42,170 --> 00:36:38,190
not just UFO sightings one example we

820
00:36:44,210 --> 00:36:42,180
gave was mark birds'll and I many years

821
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,220
back we had a letter from a small

822
00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:47,040
village in the Dales so we found them so

823
00:36:51,650 --> 00:36:49,140
we'll come and see yeah and when we got

824
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:51,660
there it won even a village wallet was

825
00:36:59,540 --> 00:36:54,720
just a few houses and of course they had

826
00:37:02,600 --> 00:36:59,550
no numbers on them so you know we

827
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:02,610
knocked on the door of the first one and

828
00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:04,110
we asked this lady if she knew the

829
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:07,260
gentleman and she saw have you come

830
00:37:12,890 --> 00:37:10,710
about the ghost dog really yeah and I

831
00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:12,900
said what's that so she told us about

832
00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:16,619
you know the tale of the ghost dog that

833
00:37:21,890 --> 00:37:19,140
wandered down the village and so that

834
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:21,900
information came to was quite by

835
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:24,110
accident a mom who started sort of

836
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:27,090
taking the the blinkers off if you like

837
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:30,260
we found out that there was witchcraft

838
00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:32,880
had been reported in the area that had

839
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,590
been reported to the local police

840
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:36,960
because originally out on some of the

841
00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:39,510
day all some of their the hills define

842
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:43,380
little bundles of clothing but it was it

843
00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:45,930
wasn't old clothing right and they

844
00:37:50,780 --> 00:37:48,270
thought something untoward a chain in

845
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,790
place so they'd report it to the police

846
00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:53,040
and of course it was some kind of

847
00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:54,750
witchcraft that was being practiced

848
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:56,820
there nothing definitely should anything

849
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:00,240
like that but you know and and so you

850
00:38:06,349 --> 00:38:03,810
know then what we did it New York see

851
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:06,359
UFO society on Carleton more just up so

852
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:08,400
had to Skipton we literally camped in a

853
00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:11,130
caravan there for a week did some local

854
00:38:18,590 --> 00:38:15,900
press and put some signs apply the side

855
00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:18,600
of the moor next to the road and people

856
00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:21,990
came from all around the area reported

857
00:38:26,990 --> 00:38:24,150
things was Paul and it went back decades

858
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:27,000
and if not just mainly UFO sightings but

859
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:29,910
the pot reported all kinds of things

860
00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:34,770
weird and wonderful and the late police

861
00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:37,230
sergeant Tony dot was part of the

862
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:40,980
organization then and Tony told us of a

863
00:38:46,250 --> 00:38:43,650
few paranormal events that he witnessed

864
00:38:48,350 --> 00:38:46,260
himself you know firsthand or the

865
00:38:51,470 --> 00:38:48,360
after-effects

866
00:38:53,780 --> 00:38:51,480
so you write me there you know we you

867
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:53,790
can find if you you know either by

868
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,090
chance or accident or on purpose in

869
00:39:01,310 --> 00:38:59,280
certain areas when you have these things

870
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:01,320
there's a whole host of phenomena taking

871
00:39:08,810 --> 00:39:04,290
place you support on there it makes you

872
00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:08,820
wonder if if the area at certain times

873
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:11,550
will slip will call it 96 97 98 here

874
00:39:19,070 --> 00:39:16,850
well somehow I'm looking at this from an

875
00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:19,080
interdimensional point of view and not

876
00:39:25,550 --> 00:39:21,030
some spaceship that's traveling from

877
00:39:28,610 --> 00:39:25,560
some galaxies are some creature that's

878
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:28,620
appearing this come from some and it

879
00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:30,090
makes you wonder if the sort of thin

880
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:34,440
areas where other things unconnected to

881
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:37,110
each other at you are all acting and

882
00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:38,970
playing out I mean you've experienced

883
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,380
this and you've got loads of years

884
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:42,960
looking into this this subject just like

885
00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:46,770
Chris has and it's it seems to crop up I

886
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:49,140
mean it would the sad thing is that UFO

887
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:51,420
investigators are cryptid investigators

888
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,450
just stay with their given subject and

889
00:39:58,940 --> 00:39:56,880
don't look outside of it because it I

890
00:40:02,060 --> 00:39:58,950
think it's all connected in some way

891
00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:02,070
away I don't understand what how but I

892
00:40:06,290 --> 00:40:03,960
do think it's connected so maybe the

893
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:06,300
poltergeist was responsible for moving

894
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:08,550
the things around I believe was we get a

895
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:10,650
little bit there's not tons to this but

896
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:12,210
a little bit further into this that you

897
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:14,250
might start changing your mind because I

898
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:16,140
think one of the men were responsible

899
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:16,650
for this

900
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:18,510
maybe unknowingly but we'll see in a

901
00:40:23,180 --> 00:40:21,210
moment what okay obviously I've got I'm

902
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:23,190
reading I'm doing this out of reading

903
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:24,720
and I'm talking this so I've got the

904
00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:27,810
parameter what's happening but anyway so

905
00:40:32,330 --> 00:40:30,990
it's like things they seem detached from

906
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:32,340
each other but there's some kind of

907
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:33,930
unseen thread running through it all

908
00:40:36,050 --> 00:40:35,310
that's connecting them that I don't

909
00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:36,060
understand

910
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:38,550
but there's one night one evening

911
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:40,110
Steve's on his own the other the other

912
00:40:44,990 --> 00:40:42,450
Dave's mom and dad's gone home 10 11

913
00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:45,000
o'clock time if I'm being truthful guys

914
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:46,260
I don't actually know what time they

915
00:40:51,890 --> 00:40:47,850
used to leave I know these two come most

916
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:51,900
evenings of the week and there's just

917
00:40:57,650 --> 00:40:54,570
Steve locking up and there's no lights

918
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,660
it's really dark and he's shutting the

919
00:41:00,980 --> 00:40:59,280
gates opens you know that feeling

920
00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:00,990
everybody's at it well you think you

921
00:41:04,130 --> 00:41:01,920
suddenly get that

922
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:04,140
feeling of dread and you turn around and

923
00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:05,490
the wrists are not there to thrive you

924
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:07,710
said it turned around this isn't this

925
00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:11,280
monstrous figure stood behind him and

926
00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:13,230
he's talking somewhat like eight or nine

927
00:41:18,049 --> 00:41:15,990
foot tall and he's not talking some bear

928
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:18,059
or something wouldn't you care guys this

929
00:41:26,030 --> 00:41:23,490
is just a huge black slab of a figure he

930
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:26,040
said he unbelievably thick arms and

931
00:41:31,130 --> 00:41:28,290
shoulders but no detailing or black he

932
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:31,140
was just a black shape in the night he

933
00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:33,210
says I actually turned round in a booth

934
00:41:37,309 --> 00:41:35,670
and just sort of went back to gates he

935
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:37,319
said this thing just turned and walked

936
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:40,079
into the darkness and you know that was

937
00:41:45,260 --> 00:41:43,380
just one just what little cameo of one

938
00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:45,270
thing that happened just like the

939
00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:47,750
footprints that appeared on the guy's

940
00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:50,790
motor vehicles for no apparent reason

941
00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:52,680
with footprints of something that were

942
00:41:58,220 --> 00:41:55,079
far too large not to have dented the

943
00:42:00,650 --> 00:41:58,230
vehicles bonnets and roofs but it look

944
00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:00,660
it just happened and at other times

945
00:42:07,579 --> 00:42:04,200
they're still reporting the sky usually

946
00:42:09,530 --> 00:42:07,589
on their way home these enormous flashes

947
00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:09,540
of light just for a blink and it's

948
00:42:13,309 --> 00:42:11,190
daylight I mean I don't know what kind

949
00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:13,319
of energy needed to produce that effect

950
00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:16,500
but they all three guys reported this

951
00:42:23,150 --> 00:42:19,910
and Dave's mum and dad had seen it now

952
00:42:26,450 --> 00:42:23,160
the the phenomena didn't stop when the

953
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:26,460
grave marker left and Andrew I mean he's

954
00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:28,079
openly admitted it to me like him

955
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:32,339
because he's still it says everything is

956
00:42:38,089 --> 00:42:34,710
just vivid in his mind still they said

957
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:38,099
and he got a bit level with phenomena he

958
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:41,609
said nah started shouting at it and

959
00:42:46,609 --> 00:42:43,650
asking it to produce things asking it to

960
00:42:48,829 --> 00:42:46,619
give me something that I can use give me

961
00:42:50,359 --> 00:42:48,839
some money I can spend I'm sick of it

962
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:50,369
what you're throwing these washes about

963
00:42:55,819 --> 00:42:52,710
thought why are you giving me old money

964
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:55,829
give me something he said and Steve the

965
00:43:00,740 --> 00:42:59,280
boss said you better stop they said what

966
00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:00,750
do you mean he says you don't realize

967
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:02,460
what you are dealing with so if you

968
00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:05,730
don't stop so much can happen you must

969
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,220
stop doing this now it says you don't

970
00:43:13,010 --> 00:43:09,839
know what you're playing with you now

971
00:43:14,180 --> 00:43:13,020
pack it in it's David agree this is and

972
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:14,190
rule just took the notice of him and

973
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:15,390
kept shouting at it

974
00:43:20,330 --> 00:43:18,090
they were bang over the washer it inside

975
00:43:22,610 --> 00:43:20,340
a unit and this one most nights I don't

976
00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:22,620
mean it it would like 30 or 40 watches a

977
00:43:26,810 --> 00:43:24,390
night but not every night just about

978
00:43:30,380 --> 00:43:26,820
throughout June July and August the

979
00:43:32,450 --> 00:43:30,390
activity built and it be shout enough to

980
00:43:34,190 --> 00:43:32,460
give me the lottery numbers and they say

981
00:43:38,090 --> 00:43:34,200
I think he said something like if you're

982
00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:38,100
so powerful give me someone may I can

983
00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:40,350
spend and had Chris come to God sorry

984
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:43,350
Steve continued to tell him that you

985
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:45,930
know he didn't realize what he was

986
00:43:51,740 --> 00:43:49,920
dealing with so though I said we work in

987
00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:51,750
there we rolled wellness up various jobs

988
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,060
he says and suddenly Andrews we've just

989
00:43:58,580 --> 00:43:56,400
looked and Andros screaming and spinning

990
00:44:00,760 --> 00:43:58,590
around in the like doing circles on the

991
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:00,770
floor holding his hands over his face

992
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:04,110
shouting a beam hit have been hit have

993
00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:06,810
been hit I mean he might get to listen

994
00:44:13,250 --> 00:44:09,390
to this song which is interesting about

995
00:44:15,860 --> 00:44:13,260
that's where he's told me and he said we

996
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:15,870
could also purchase perplex we don't

997
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:17,220
know I don't know if Dave's mom and dad

998
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:18,810
were there when this happened he says

999
00:44:24,980 --> 00:44:20,450
well he moved his hands from his face

1000
00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:24,990
and he'd got a perfectly round well

1001
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:27,300
first of all he'd got a two pence coin

1002
00:44:34,190 --> 00:44:32,010
stuck to his forehead right when we

1003
00:44:36,260 --> 00:44:34,200
pulled it away got a perfectly round red

1004
00:44:38,540 --> 00:44:36,270
circle in the middle of his florid I

1005
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:38,550
asked if the coin was warmed by the way

1006
00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:40,770
guys but this don't recall it being warm

1007
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:43,560
and Andrew says it was the most bizarre

1008
00:44:48,590 --> 00:44:45,750
thing because he just turned round and

1009
00:44:51,290 --> 00:44:48,600
saw it coming towards him full circle

1010
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,300
this isn't it was in slow motion and I

1011
00:44:57,260 --> 00:44:52,800
thought about that man thinking to

1012
00:44:59,810 --> 00:44:57,270
myself how does that work we've got some

1013
00:45:01,580 --> 00:44:59,820
kind of moment that he's caught up in

1014
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:01,590
and this is caught up him to create that

1015
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:04,200
effect he said because he came to him in

1016
00:45:10,610 --> 00:45:07,680
slow motion and smacked him in the

1017
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:10,620
middle of the head and he said he hurt

1018
00:45:16,610 --> 00:45:13,770
and this red circle stayed imprinted in

1019
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:16,620
his florid for over three days all three

1020
00:45:23,090 --> 00:45:20,400
men say that now that shows intent that

1021
00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:23,100
shows to me evil it is he can't show

1022
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:24,900
anything else can i guys if they're not

1023
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:25,290
lying

1024
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:28,690
that's intelligence into it that's

1025
00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:31,390
gotta be honey you know it's I've got a

1026
00:45:41,010 --> 00:45:36,510
question for Paul M do any of these men

1027
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:41,020
did they or do they have any association

1028
00:45:47,549 --> 00:45:43,569
with the occult not that I know of

1029
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:47,559
not that I know of but you know I've got

1030
00:45:56,010 --> 00:45:52,960
I've got more out to two other guys what

1031
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:56,020
I spoke to one of them who didn't want

1032
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:57,490
to speak sort of thing

1033
00:46:01,620 --> 00:45:59,680
I'm not joking and I'm don't mind saying

1034
00:46:03,450 --> 00:46:01,630
it one radio but it were almost as

1035
00:46:04,859 --> 00:46:03,460
thought it's these mummy words to him

1036
00:46:06,059 --> 00:46:04,869
when I got to speak to him face to face

1037
00:46:07,260 --> 00:46:06,069
I said it well I could hit you in the

1038
00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:07,270
face with the shovel you were that

1039
00:46:11,609 --> 00:46:10,329
shocked and this guy when when I rang up

1040
00:46:14,130 --> 00:46:11,619
and I said I've just been speaking to

1041
00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:14,140
so-and-so so-and-so and I I believe that

1042
00:46:20,450 --> 00:46:15,700
you've got you have this strange

1043
00:46:21,809 --> 00:46:20,460
experience 96 97 98 and I've got this no

1044
00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:21,819
no idea

1045
00:46:27,870 --> 00:46:25,390
oh never thought enough to speak about

1046
00:46:30,029 --> 00:46:27,880
this this shouldn't be spit off no and

1047
00:46:31,799 --> 00:46:30,039
it really did I'm never gonna stop

1048
00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:31,809
thinking about this all week now isn't

1049
00:46:35,730 --> 00:46:34,390
that that was the phone call and I

1050
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,740
didn't think I'd get to speak to him but

1051
00:46:40,349 --> 00:46:37,119
I have and I've sat down and I've got a

1052
00:46:44,819 --> 00:46:40,359
few hours with him and on two occasions

1053
00:46:46,829 --> 00:46:44,829
now and there's more there's more we

1054
00:46:49,620 --> 00:46:46,839
outta doubt there's more but at the

1055
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:49,630
moment all three men are saying the same

1056
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:53,710
story one of them has got more to tell

1057
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:55,599
whether I'll ever get it and I don't

1058
00:47:02,130 --> 00:46:56,049
know

1059
00:47:04,049 --> 00:47:02,140
so after this slow motion coin smacked

1060
00:47:06,779 --> 00:47:04,059
and ruined the floor head and left this

1061
00:47:08,670 --> 00:47:06,789
red mark the the other activity

1062
00:47:12,299 --> 00:47:08,680
continued just like before I'll not

1063
00:47:15,059 --> 00:47:12,309
bother repeating it all but Steve said

1064
00:47:17,309 --> 00:47:15,069
one evening he stood outside in the back

1065
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:17,319
of the compound where all the vehicles

1066
00:47:21,089 --> 00:47:19,599
are parked and the Sun guys I think

1067
00:47:24,059 --> 00:47:21,099
there were a bus step off further down

1068
00:47:25,650 --> 00:47:24,069
this is still there actually well now

1069
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:25,660
think that's the East Yorkshire Post a

1070
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:27,609
boyfriend no I don't know that about

1071
00:47:34,170 --> 00:47:29,529
that Chris because this is humbly and

1072
00:47:36,140 --> 00:47:34,180
this is a I think the restoring me just

1073
00:47:39,809 --> 00:47:36,150
abandoned the brick I mean restore them

1074
00:47:41,250 --> 00:47:39,819
you know do do jobs like that meet the

1075
00:47:42,450 --> 00:47:41,260
one you're all about is it living to

1076
00:47:44,460 --> 00:47:42,460
nothing but any

1077
00:47:46,410 --> 00:47:44,470
the suit in the back of the compound

1078
00:47:49,170 --> 00:47:46,420
it's nighttime having a cigarette doing

1079
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:49,180
whatever they're doing if your guys were

1080
00:47:54,780 --> 00:47:50,770
working this bossy outta there

1081
00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:54,790
he doesn't know if Andrew and Dave were

1082
00:47:59,250 --> 00:47:57,609
there and I don't think they were

1083
00:48:00,660 --> 00:47:59,260
because they don't recall seeing these

1084
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:00,670
he says but we're just looking towards

1085
00:48:06,089 --> 00:48:02,650
to see obviously they can't see the see

1086
00:48:08,370 --> 00:48:06,099
mister three miles away and it's coming

1087
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:08,380
from the c7 just three of the most

1088
00:48:14,010 --> 00:48:11,650
enormous black triangles they have ever

1089
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,020
seen well never seen anything like it

1090
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:16,000
almost they ever seen before they'd

1091
00:48:21,690 --> 00:48:18,070
never seen anything like it

1092
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:21,700
in in his life before then he stuck he

1093
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:24,609
says absolutely Gigantor these things

1094
00:48:29,940 --> 00:48:26,770
were enormous and this three of them

1095
00:48:34,170 --> 00:48:29,950
then they just slowly traveling in the

1096
00:48:36,030 --> 00:48:34,180
night blacker than the sky distinct not

1097
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:36,040
are these clouds that are moving with

1098
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:37,930
wind and can we must perceive these as

1099
00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:40,450
being triangles these are triangles no

1100
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:42,820
lights on them no lights each corners

1101
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:45,310
people report and things these are just

1102
00:48:50,670 --> 00:48:48,250
three monstrously huge black triangles

1103
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:50,680
and a blown away these guys you know

1104
00:48:53,849 --> 00:48:52,240
Steve says I just can't believe it is

1105
00:48:58,170 --> 00:48:53,859
the other guys jaws of good job to

1106
00:48:59,700 --> 00:48:58,180
flourish said you know the jaws and they

1107
00:49:03,210 --> 00:48:59,710
thought they're gonna pass straight over

1108
00:49:05,339 --> 00:49:03,220
top of our heads well as they approached

1109
00:49:08,490 --> 00:49:05,349
the sort of area of the compound these

1110
00:49:09,810 --> 00:49:08,500
things switched off they'd gone they

1111
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:09,820
just weren't there anymore

1112
00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:12,310
Oh guys are scratching their heads

1113
00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:13,480
thinking where they've gone did not

1114
00:49:18,030 --> 00:49:15,880
flown off which throws me to another

1115
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:18,040
thing just break from story a little bit

1116
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:19,450
just want to throw this out there to

1117
00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:22,180
listeners and 20 to you to do you think

1118
00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:25,060
that this kind of technology has

1119
00:49:30,089 --> 00:49:28,150
developed some kind of thing like wood

1120
00:49:31,859 --> 00:49:30,099
you know we call it stealth but do you

1121
00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:31,869
think it almost octopus-like or

1122
00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:34,720
chameleon like with it when it was some

1123
00:49:39,390 --> 00:49:36,550
kind of inter mined reaction so when

1124
00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:39,400
it's when the visual connection is made

1125
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:41,260
with these things that can just sort of

1126
00:49:45,420 --> 00:49:44,050
blend and become invisible for want of a

1127
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:45,430
better word do you think that's possible

1128
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:48,880
I mean I remember years back with help

1129
00:49:55,650 --> 00:49:51,760
many years back reading in the the

1130
00:50:00,750 --> 00:49:58,440
was a well-respected publication at the

1131
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:00,760
time that and I don't know who wrote the

1132
00:50:05,490 --> 00:50:03,910
article but it reminds me exactly what

1133
00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:05,500
you're saying there because the article

1134
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:08,140
was something along the lines of other

1135
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:11,680
UFOs that mimicked in other words

1136
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:13,599
they're you know they're camouflaged or

1137
00:50:18,750 --> 00:50:15,970
they would appear that first bit to look

1138
00:50:21,420 --> 00:50:18,760
like something else and that's that's

1139
00:50:23,130 --> 00:50:21,430
the only thing I can think of that comes

1140
00:50:26,099 --> 00:50:23,140
anywhere close to what what you've

1141
00:50:30,690 --> 00:50:26,109
suggested there yeah well what's police

1142
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:30,700
re know so it was me a Paul what I was

1143
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:34,569
going to say is I think that there is

1144
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:37,930
some kind of mind connection with the

1145
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:41,410
the UFOs or the rock offense in that

1146
00:50:47,069 --> 00:50:44,319
they can possibly read our thoughts or

1147
00:50:49,849 --> 00:50:47,079
what we're thinking my the reason I say

1148
00:50:52,620 --> 00:50:49,859
that is my very first experience back in

1149
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:52,630
73 which I think I've mentioned to you

1150
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:54,970
before is remember I told you about our

1151
00:50:59,849 --> 00:50:56,530
set on top of the hill and I saw these

1152
00:51:01,799 --> 00:50:59,859
lights across yeah and I looked up and

1153
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:01,809
show it to my friends look there's a UFO

1154
00:51:08,010 --> 00:51:04,690
guy sees a UFO and as a shelter day it

1155
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,020
disappeared completely clear cloudless

1156
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:10,240
sky February evening and it just

1157
00:51:13,950 --> 00:51:11,890
completely blinked tone I was never

1158
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:13,960
never saw it again and it was directly

1159
00:51:20,370 --> 00:51:15,609
off ahead of me when that happened yeah

1160
00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:20,380
well there's got to be some I mean call

1161
00:51:25,309 --> 00:51:21,910
it internet connection there's got to be

1162
00:51:28,769 --> 00:51:25,319
something that you know because I mean

1163
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:28,779
how these things saw something so huge

1164
00:51:33,630 --> 00:51:31,569
that you wouldn't they never saw it fly

1165
00:51:36,569 --> 00:51:33,640
away it literally was as though that's

1166
00:51:38,130 --> 00:51:36,579
turned a switch off and it's almost as

1167
00:51:40,529 --> 00:51:38,140
though there's some recognition from the

1168
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:40,539
occupants as father I mean it could be

1169
00:51:44,370 --> 00:51:42,609
just pure intelligence that's flying

1170
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:44,380
towards them I mean or whatever's inside

1171
00:51:50,490 --> 00:51:47,529
these things was registered that there's

1172
00:51:53,010 --> 00:51:50,500
been some sighting or visual but there

1173
00:51:55,019 --> 00:51:53,020
again have traveled over land from from

1174
00:51:56,460 --> 00:51:55,029
the sea you would think that they'd been

1175
00:51:58,799 --> 00:51:56,470
that could have been seen by any number

1176
00:51:59,849 --> 00:51:58,809
of people but these guys saw as they

1177
00:52:02,099 --> 00:51:59,859
were beginning to think they're gonna

1178
00:52:06,750 --> 00:52:02,109
pass straight overhead they've vanished

1179
00:52:09,250 --> 00:52:06,760
well that one that night and they were

1180
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:09,260
talking about it the next day and they

1181
00:52:12,580 --> 00:52:11,330
relayed information to Dave's mom and

1182
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:12,590
dad and it worked quite an exciting

1183
00:52:20,980 --> 00:52:16,400
sighting brand-ne exciting sighting but

1184
00:52:24,030 --> 00:52:20,990
it's you know he caused a lot of debate

1185
00:52:26,740 --> 00:52:24,040
and a lot a lot of talk and we're now in

1186
00:52:30,490 --> 00:52:26,750
in July we're not we're now at the end

1187
00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:30,500
of the month and there's more I wish I

1188
00:52:35,380 --> 00:52:32,150
could tell you whom it's not some kind

1189
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:35,390
of teaser book I've just I can tell you

1190
00:52:39,550 --> 00:52:36,800
more I'm gonna finish the story but what

1191
00:52:42,340 --> 00:52:39,560
I mean is there's more I can't tell but

1192
00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:42,350
so anyway the the following night

1193
00:52:46,660 --> 00:52:45,920
Dave's mum and dad left it's about 10

1194
00:52:49,630 --> 00:52:46,670
p.m.

1195
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:49,640
back to bridlington know we did discuss

1196
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:52,610
the triangles and the activity he said

1197
00:52:59,290 --> 00:52:57,200
it Andrew daven and Steve all all three

1198
00:53:03,660 --> 00:52:59,300
of them to say that he it went crazy

1199
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:03,670
that night the activity there was more

1200
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:06,770
washes flying about and more activity

1201
00:53:11,650 --> 00:53:09,440
than the decks perience in the previous

1202
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:11,660
years and just of this triangle these

1203
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:13,730
three triangular craft if you want to

1204
00:53:18,490 --> 00:53:16,250
call them craft scene the day before so

1205
00:53:21,340 --> 00:53:18,500
Dave's mom and dad set off back to

1206
00:53:23,140 --> 00:53:21,350
Bridlington and that's that and that's

1207
00:53:28,780 --> 00:53:23,150
during the workshop the the rest of the

1208
00:53:30,670 --> 00:53:28,790
guys and the the role of shut the doors

1209
00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:30,680
they put the roller two doors up about

1210
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:32,750
six or eight foot burning mind that

1211
00:53:38,590 --> 00:53:35,810
they'd go up much higher high enough to

1212
00:53:40,180 --> 00:53:38,600
get a big bus through an alley where

1213
00:53:43,570 --> 00:53:40,190
Andrew saw it first

1214
00:53:46,330 --> 00:53:43,580
and he said the but the bottom of their

1215
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:46,340
compound he could see what he could only

1216
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:50,810
describe as a classic 1950s 60s Flying

1217
00:53:55,060 --> 00:53:51,680
Saucer

1218
00:53:57,310 --> 00:53:55,070
he says it was there on the ground

1219
00:53:59,800 --> 00:53:57,320
he said there's lights going all the way

1220
00:54:04,210 --> 00:53:59,810
around it he said there's there's a mist

1221
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:04,220
all the way around it and I'm looking at

1222
00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:06,050
this thing and I can't believe what I'm

1223
00:54:11,530 --> 00:54:09,680
looking at and even today even today if

1224
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:11,540
I spoke to him he says it will like a

1225
00:54:15,070 --> 00:54:13,970
film set I think it was staged I can't

1226
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:15,080
believe it

1227
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:17,930
what I'll seen he says I don't expect I

1228
00:54:21,550 --> 00:54:20,330
didn't expect it to be that big he said

1229
00:54:22,750 --> 00:54:21,560
it were about as big as a flat back

1230
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:22,760
truck it's

1231
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:24,290
there's a bubble on top of it like a

1232
00:54:30,190 --> 00:54:26,690
glass dome or perspex dome he says now

1233
00:54:32,170 --> 00:54:30,200
can see this figure inside it and the

1234
00:54:34,570 --> 00:54:32,180
ology strategy is a black figure he

1235
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:34,580
don't describe details or eyes are too

1236
00:54:41,380 --> 00:54:37,130
far away but he can see him and he's

1237
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:41,390
looking at this thing and then he's sort

1238
00:54:44,530 --> 00:54:43,040
of trying to work it out and there's a

1239
00:54:46,270 --> 00:54:44,540
bit of confusion because to do it all

1240
00:54:49,810 --> 00:54:46,280
together but now none of them now can

1241
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:49,820
remember being with each other all three

1242
00:54:52,750 --> 00:54:50,930
of them have said that they knew they

1243
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:52,760
were together he said now locked on us

1244
00:55:00,730 --> 00:54:55,370
could see I could see Steve walking down

1245
00:55:02,770 --> 00:55:00,740
towards this mist and he disappeared he

1246
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:02,780
said and then for some reason he says I

1247
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:04,910
went to the front door and at the side

1248
00:55:08,290 --> 00:55:06,650
of each roll of shutter there's a small

1249
00:55:10,810 --> 00:55:08,300
side door I think everybody will be

1250
00:55:14,290 --> 00:55:10,820
familiar with these big old industrial

1251
00:55:15,790 --> 00:55:14,300
units he says now he said I've seen this

1252
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:15,800
but I still went to look for him up

1253
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:18,710
front don't know why he says what the

1254
00:55:23,470 --> 00:55:20,450
activity at the front he says of that

1255
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:23,480
door door helicopters all over

1256
00:55:26,590 --> 00:55:25,370
he says endure very low and we should

1257
00:55:29,410 --> 00:55:26,600
have been able to see him but we

1258
00:55:30,940 --> 00:55:29,420
couldn't see him he said but this thing

1259
00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:30,950
weren't a helicopter that were London

1260
00:55:36,370 --> 00:55:33,710
down there this thing what a flying

1261
00:55:38,350 --> 00:55:36,380
saucer and that's his words not mine

1262
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:38,360
now don't use the word flame source and

1263
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:40,910
real usual but that's what he said he

1264
00:55:44,460 --> 00:55:42,410
says and I went to this side door at the

1265
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:44,470
front and I just opened it it says until

1266
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:48,170
military personnel grabbed hold of me

1267
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:49,850
I've looked to swear it's just do a

1268
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:52,850
right nasty and he starts with B it says

1269
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:55,280
horrible odd people he says in the

1270
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:57,200
dragged mean and drop me to the floor

1271
00:56:02,770 --> 00:55:58,850
and they've got guns and the said stay

1272
00:56:05,110 --> 00:56:02,780
down there yeah and don't move stay

1273
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:05,120
there do as she told don't move he says

1274
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:06,770
and that's what I was told and they've

1275
00:56:10,510 --> 00:56:08,330
got the rifles with them and that's what

1276
00:56:12,310 --> 00:56:10,520
they did he says these guys were dressed

1277
00:56:15,340 --> 00:56:12,320
him they were messing about it says they

1278
00:56:18,730 --> 00:56:15,350
were dressed in black edie to toe not

1279
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:18,740
camouflage gear all in black so that

1280
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:21,170
what Dave's that saw excuse me that were

1281
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:26,240
Andrews story so it told me this is and

1282
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:28,160
he still believes it was surreal and

1283
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:29,690
staged you just can't believe that this

1284
00:56:34,540 --> 00:56:32,960
thing happened so after that next thing

1285
00:56:36,580 --> 00:56:34,550
I have to speak to Dave I want to see

1286
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:36,590
whether he's singing a Citroen yeah

1287
00:56:43,870 --> 00:56:40,610
from saying sheet sort of thing and he

1288
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:43,880
tells me the same story he doesn't

1289
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:46,160
remember where Andrew was although they

1290
00:56:50,860 --> 00:56:48,530
were all in workshop at the time he

1291
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:50,870
doesn't remember seeing Steve walk down

1292
00:56:56,190 --> 00:56:53,450
to the object where he remembers seeing

1293
00:56:58,420 --> 00:56:56,200
the object at the bottom of the compound

1294
00:57:01,120 --> 00:56:58,430
it doesn't remember seeing anything

1295
00:57:05,140 --> 00:57:01,130
inside it although I saw it Bree saw

1296
00:57:07,450 --> 00:57:05,150
three stood outside in the mist if he

1297
00:57:11,230 --> 00:57:07,460
said book any 6-foot he's over six look

1298
00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:11,240
this guy and he says these things must

1299
00:57:15,820 --> 00:57:12,920
have been over seven foot tall they said

1300
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:15,830
they were unusually thin he said and I'm

1301
00:57:19,300 --> 00:57:17,690
trying to think how he worded the

1302
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:19,310
clothing he says if they'd got clothing

1303
00:57:22,420 --> 00:57:20,960
on because he would all he could see

1304
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:22,430
well a black outline of the three of

1305
00:57:26,860 --> 00:57:24,890
them if they got clothing on he says

1306
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:26,870
they were either wet suit or some like

1307
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:30,290
super tight clothing and the Reds looked

1308
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:33,680
larger than they should have been and

1309
00:57:39,130 --> 00:57:35,570
that's that's his description of them

1310
00:57:43,090 --> 00:57:39,140
now for some reason Dave found himself

1311
00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:43,100
at the front of the unit he was dragged

1312
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:45,710
inside and told to get down by one

1313
00:57:55,660 --> 00:57:50,480
soldier he says who had a handgun sir

1314
00:57:57,450 --> 00:57:55,670
all dressed in black so you know we've

1315
00:58:02,440 --> 00:57:57,460
got a similar story we haven't got an

1316
00:58:05,710 --> 00:58:02,450
occupant in in the you know in the craft

1317
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:05,720
if we're gonna call it a craft what one

1318
00:58:10,180 --> 00:58:07,850
other thing that Dave noted was he said

1319
00:58:15,850 --> 00:58:10,190
he could hear the helicopters he says

1320
00:58:17,860 --> 00:58:15,860
but then when I come to think of it I

1321
00:58:19,710 --> 00:58:17,870
wanted him to be Alec doctors because

1322
00:58:24,130 --> 00:58:19,720
door I could hear these things overhead

1323
00:58:25,390 --> 00:58:24,140
what the sound was coming he said what

1324
00:58:26,980 --> 00:58:25,400
the first thing I was thinking what the

1325
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:26,990
zelich right where are these helicopters

1326
00:58:31,210 --> 00:58:29,330
a bug bang but I couldn't he said when

1327
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:31,220
you think when I really think about what

1328
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:34,370
it sounded like it was a hum it wasn't a

1329
00:58:41,980 --> 00:58:38,720
helicopter so because helicopters magmar

1330
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:41,990
yeah kind of and you can feel them in

1331
00:58:47,779 --> 00:58:45,920
the end what we do though Chris and

1332
00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:47,789
Phillip weird

1333
00:58:51,739 --> 00:58:50,249
if we involved or seized something

1334
00:58:53,239 --> 00:58:51,749
surreal or hear something we're trying

1335
00:58:55,339 --> 00:58:53,249
to fit it into something that can

1336
00:58:58,459 --> 00:58:55,349
understand yeah it's right we try and

1337
00:59:00,169 --> 00:58:58,469
rationalize it yes absolutely yeah so I

1338
00:59:01,939 --> 00:59:00,179
think that's I think that's what they

1339
00:59:03,889 --> 00:59:01,949
were trying to do I mean I don't want to

1340
00:59:05,269 --> 00:59:03,899
diss I don't want to take it away that

1341
00:59:06,589 --> 00:59:05,279
could have been helicopters in air but

1342
00:59:10,759 --> 00:59:06,599
it were just it was just Dave's

1343
00:59:12,439 --> 00:59:10,769
observation that you know it come to

1344
00:59:15,379 --> 00:59:12,449
think of it he says it were more of a

1345
00:59:17,089 --> 00:59:15,389
hum so as I say the soldier got him

1346
00:59:18,589 --> 00:59:17,099
dropped him to the ground threatened him

1347
00:59:22,759 --> 00:59:18,599
warned him to stay down

1348
00:59:26,179 --> 00:59:22,769
now I spoke to Steve last the boss and

1349
00:59:29,059 --> 00:59:26,189
he recalled similar things in fact if

1350
00:59:31,669 --> 00:59:29,069
I'm if I'm being truthful Steve told us

1351
00:59:34,909 --> 00:59:31,679
the same story as the other two cab and

1352
00:59:36,949 --> 00:59:34,919
copy really and did not heed not had any

1353
00:59:40,279 --> 00:59:36,959
association with their me he didn't

1354
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:40,289
really want to talk to me at all he do I

1355
00:59:46,029 --> 00:59:42,089
asked him I said Andrew said he saw you

1356
00:59:49,309 --> 00:59:46,039
walking down towards this object and

1357
00:59:51,799 --> 00:59:49,319
disappear and he they were there was

1358
00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:51,809
spell of silence really a long spell of

1359
00:59:57,439 --> 00:59:54,329
silence and or no eye contact made of

1360
00:59:59,839 --> 00:59:57,449
just staring into interspace and he just

1361
01:00:02,629 --> 00:59:59,849
looked at me and went over to clue why

1362
01:00:05,749 --> 01:00:02,639
I'd say that that's that's all I got

1363
01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:05,759
back off him but he does asked him if

1364
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:07,619
he'd seen the being I had this one last

1365
01:00:11,989 --> 01:00:10,169
question I said do you remember seeing

1366
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:11,999
and the occupants of this thing and he

1367
01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:14,579
said I saw one he didn't see he saw the

1368
01:00:18,499 --> 01:00:16,799
objects at the bottom II remember seeing

1369
01:00:21,799 --> 01:00:18,509
the lights the yellow and white lights

1370
01:00:23,659 --> 01:00:21,809
around it met the flashing and arcing as

1371
01:00:26,509 --> 01:00:23,669
well that's what Dave said like a welder

1372
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:26,519
these lights were and he remembers the

1373
01:00:33,649 --> 01:00:30,089
mist but he saw one one tall very tall

1374
01:00:36,109 --> 01:00:33,659
thin being in the mist but he doesn't

1375
01:00:38,839 --> 01:00:36,119
recall seeing his head don't ask me

1376
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:38,849
that's no need Rick Lee you know what

1377
01:00:43,219 --> 01:00:41,609
these guys have told me it's for some

1378
01:00:48,259 --> 01:00:43,229
reason he doesn't recall seeing his head

1379
01:00:51,229 --> 01:00:48,269
and that's basically you know where

1380
01:00:55,009 --> 01:00:51,239
where we're at with it but after the

1381
01:00:58,189 --> 01:00:55,019
event the guys Oh actually we're not

1382
01:01:00,889 --> 01:00:58,199
there's one other element so an Android

1383
01:01:01,809 --> 01:01:00,899
seen guys with rifles David seen a

1384
01:01:04,900 --> 01:01:01,819
pistol

1385
01:01:07,660 --> 01:01:04,910
Steve said the guys that got him II was

1386
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:07,670
at the front as well so some reason he

1387
01:01:12,970 --> 01:01:11,210
went to the front he was dragged inside

1388
01:01:15,609 --> 01:01:12,980
and put to the floor but they had

1389
01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:15,619
machine guns I'm sorry for mixing it up

1390
01:01:19,150 --> 01:01:17,359
here listeners and I'm not trying to

1391
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:19,160
make it sound more exciting because guns

1392
01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:20,930
to be honest would have been enough for

1393
01:01:26,019 --> 01:01:23,710
me but I'm relating what they've told me

1394
01:01:28,989 --> 01:01:26,029
none of them remember being with each

1395
01:01:31,569 --> 01:01:28,999
other which they find confusing and I

1396
01:01:34,210 --> 01:01:31,579
find really interesting because they

1397
01:01:38,229 --> 01:01:34,220
were all together in uni when he kicked

1398
01:01:41,559 --> 01:01:38,239
off when he started so that was the end

1399
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:41,569
of the event so I don't know where's a

1400
01:01:44,849 --> 01:01:42,890
little bit more but I don't know where

1401
01:01:48,519 --> 01:01:44,859
that fits with the poltergeist activity

1402
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:48,529
and the the light bulbs glowing and the

1403
01:01:54,819 --> 01:01:51,410
radios continuing to play it's almost as

1404
01:01:56,769 --> 01:01:54,829
though we've got to build up to some to

1405
01:02:00,339 --> 01:01:56,779
this this culmination of things that

1406
01:02:04,269 --> 01:02:00,349
have just happened and it ended with

1407
01:02:07,779 --> 01:02:04,279
this event now I've put word out on

1408
01:02:10,210 --> 01:02:07,789
social media on home and B web you know

1409
01:02:12,430 --> 01:02:10,220
pages and things like that because all

1410
01:02:14,620 --> 01:02:12,440
the people must remember something about

1411
01:02:17,729 --> 01:02:14,630
this and I'll get to the point in a

1412
01:02:20,979 --> 01:02:17,739
moment why because a short time later

1413
01:02:22,690 --> 01:02:20,989
after the activities died down I mean

1414
01:02:24,460 --> 01:02:22,700
they've been ordered to stay in that

1415
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:24,470
workshop and not move and I'm assuming

1416
01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:27,650
everything's left by then and the

1417
01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:28,880
frightened as well the guys are

1418
01:02:31,870 --> 01:02:30,559
frightened that these people have not

1419
01:02:34,779 --> 01:02:31,880
messed about with them they've been

1420
01:02:38,589 --> 01:02:34,789
threatened Dave his mum and dad come

1421
01:02:39,279 --> 01:02:38,599
back they never come back they'd gone

1422
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:39,289
home

1423
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:42,170
they went on I'd love to say I was

1424
01:02:45,489 --> 01:02:44,089
before listeners but I don't know they

1425
01:02:48,849 --> 01:02:45,499
went let's just say they went home two

1426
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:48,859
hours before and they arrived back mom's

1427
01:02:57,069 --> 01:02:53,210
crying in a right State dad's frightened

1428
01:02:59,769 --> 01:02:57,079
and feeling very nervous on the way home

1429
01:03:03,069 --> 01:02:59,779
there's been a military roadblock and

1430
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:03,079
they've been stopped and pulled and

1431
01:03:09,069 --> 01:03:05,930
taken out of their vehicle into the back

1432
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:09,079
of a black van not a jeep not an army

1433
01:03:14,990 --> 01:03:12,290
vehicle a black van

1434
01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:15,000
in there there's military personnel are

1435
01:03:18,620 --> 01:03:16,470
there perceiving them to be military

1436
01:03:21,340 --> 01:03:18,630
personnel black bolts black trousers

1437
01:03:24,530 --> 01:03:21,350
everything's black beds covered a lot

1438
01:03:26,300 --> 01:03:24,540
threatened you don't say anything you

1439
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:26,310
don't speak about anything

1440
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:30,330
you keep quiet about this obviously they

1441
01:03:33,050 --> 01:03:31,530
haven't really got a clue what they're

1442
01:03:35,150 --> 01:03:33,060
being quiet about they knew about the

1443
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:35,160
triangle sightings the day before cost

1444
01:03:39,710 --> 01:03:38,250
had been told about him but they didn't

1445
01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:39,720
see him they knew about me all the

1446
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:42,120
activity the excited poltergeist

1447
01:03:47,690 --> 01:03:44,910
activity and things will they did not

1448
01:03:51,410 --> 01:03:47,700
experience what happened at the workshop

1449
01:03:52,940 --> 01:03:51,420
so they threatened and they told the

1450
01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:52,950
guys when they got back to the workshop

1451
01:03:58,610 --> 01:03:55,200
that these people know everything about

1452
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:58,620
us they've told me that they know how

1453
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:00,240
many children you've got they know you

1454
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:02,450
can number plate numbers they know

1455
01:04:06,290 --> 01:04:04,890
everything to know your movements the

1456
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:06,300
know you married till they know

1457
01:04:10,460 --> 01:04:08,640
everything and didn't they'd made sure

1458
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:10,470
that they told this old couple all this

1459
01:04:14,930 --> 01:04:12,720
information and they did I don't know if

1460
01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:14,940
the centum back but the old couple or

1461
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:18,000
the elderly couple came back and sort of

1462
01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:23,010
relayed this and once again in head to

1463
01:04:31,730 --> 01:04:29,310
toe in black these guys so um as I say

1464
01:04:33,530 --> 01:04:31,740
I'm looking I don't think of due to this

1465
01:04:34,970 --> 01:04:33,540
talk we're gonna get some witnesses come

1466
01:04:38,810 --> 01:04:34,980
forward I don't suppose you ever you

1467
01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:38,820
might do but I think does

1468
01:04:44,330 --> 01:04:41,160
information-packed around this Chris

1469
01:04:45,650 --> 01:04:44,340
that sort of from 1998 and now you'd

1470
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:45,660
might realize where I've been fishing

1471
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:48,960
for information from 1998 because I

1472
01:04:52,310 --> 01:04:50,490
think there's been I think of other

1473
01:04:55,130 --> 01:04:52,320
things were happening I know they were

1474
01:04:57,710 --> 01:04:55,140
happening around the same time and I'm

1475
01:05:01,370 --> 01:04:57,720
trying to fill some gaps in book that's

1476
01:05:04,460 --> 01:05:01,380
basically the story of the woman be

1477
01:05:06,140 --> 01:05:04,470
landing as I'm calling it and where I've

1478
01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:06,150
got to at the moment

1479
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:09,510
if you've any comments on it or any view

1480
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:11,850
look to Ihram but that's up to you guys

1481
01:05:17,570 --> 01:05:15,450
I mean one thing I would say well and

1482
01:05:19,070 --> 01:05:17,580
for anybody listening that's one of the

1483
01:05:22,010 --> 01:05:19,080
reasons why they should come to the

1484
01:05:23,810 --> 01:05:22,020
conference this year because it's still

1485
01:05:26,170 --> 01:05:23,820
a few months off so there's plenty of

1486
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:26,180
time and who knows what you might

1487
01:05:33,220 --> 01:05:29,690
acquire between now and then and again

1488
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:33,230
talking about digging for information

1489
01:05:39,350 --> 01:05:36,530
with a gentleman earlier this week and

1490
01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:39,360
it would never surprise me as a result

1491
01:05:47,570 --> 01:05:42,960
if something somebody didn't come

1492
01:05:50,540 --> 01:05:47,580
forward Paul because I know through my

1493
01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:50,550
own experience that you try for a while

1494
01:05:56,210 --> 01:05:52,920
and you get nothing and you try again

1495
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:56,220
and nothing and then all of a sudden you

1496
01:06:01,370 --> 01:05:59,760
know you think ah I'll just try and dig

1497
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:01,380
a little bit further just more or less

1498
01:06:06,050 --> 01:06:02,930
for the sake of it and hey presto

1499
01:06:08,270 --> 01:06:06,060
something happens another to remind

1500
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:08,280
people that for example probably the

1501
01:06:13,130 --> 01:06:10,050
world's most famous case it probably

1502
01:06:16,310 --> 01:06:13,140
rolls well yeah that most of the

1503
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:16,320
witnesses to that which happened in 1947

1504
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:18,690
didn't come forward till the 80s and the

1505
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:22,170
90s you know so here we are you talking

1506
01:06:28,820 --> 01:06:25,530
about you know 1998 there's every

1507
01:06:32,300 --> 01:06:28,830
possibility that holders in and around

1508
01:06:35,060 --> 01:06:32,310
the area who may not have been direct

1509
01:06:37,820 --> 01:06:35,070
witnesses what you've just described but

1510
01:06:40,940 --> 01:06:37,830
also had an experience and encounter or

1511
01:06:43,310 --> 01:06:40,950
sighting of something that may be

1512
01:06:45,530 --> 01:06:43,320
related or may not be related that's

1513
01:06:48,020 --> 01:06:45,540
that's up for you to decide I would

1514
01:06:50,780 --> 01:06:48,030
never give in my and I think you'll be I

1515
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:50,790
think you'll be surprised I really do

1516
01:06:55,250 --> 01:06:52,770
well do you know Phillip I think you're

1517
01:06:57,980 --> 01:06:55,260
right and the way I've put it over on

1518
01:07:00,110 --> 01:06:57,990
social media and gone into the detail

1519
01:07:02,900 --> 01:07:00,120
we've gone into with this today but I've

1520
01:07:05,090 --> 01:07:02,910
just put a few paragraphs together and

1521
01:07:07,460 --> 01:07:05,100
that what I've asked if anybody recalls

1522
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:07,470
the military roadblocks because that's

1523
01:07:12,140 --> 01:07:08,970
the kind of thing that somebody might

1524
01:07:14,590 --> 01:07:12,150
might have encountered in between

1525
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:14,600
Colombia and the doctor'll public house

1526
01:07:19,610 --> 01:07:17,910
which is on scabbed a road heading

1527
01:07:21,860 --> 01:07:19,620
towards little in turn I mean up because

1528
01:07:24,730 --> 01:07:21,870
it won't have been a regular occurrence

1529
01:07:27,140 --> 01:07:24,740
in road block set up by the military so

1530
01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:27,150
I'm hoping somebody remembers that

1531
01:07:30,620 --> 01:07:29,280
because we can it's just as you know

1532
01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:30,630
it's just another little bit of meat

1533
01:07:35,540 --> 01:07:33,180
packing around the the case sort of

1534
01:07:36,140 --> 01:07:35,550
thing and we will get there with it I

1535
01:07:38,660 --> 01:07:36,150
mean

1536
01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:38,670
but there's other there's all the

1537
01:07:43,550 --> 01:07:41,400
sightings that are really interesting I

1538
01:07:46,370 --> 01:07:43,560
mean then I can tell you another one if

1539
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:46,380
you if you're interested by all means

1540
01:07:50,930 --> 01:07:49,200
you know by all means well as as you

1541
01:07:54,020 --> 01:07:50,940
guys know I'm all this upon cliff tops

1542
01:07:56,180 --> 01:07:54,030
at Benton and think about three months

1543
01:07:58,460 --> 01:07:56,190
ago were no exception that Bob Brown

1544
01:08:01,250 --> 01:07:58,470
what up with me and we could see a

1545
01:08:03,620 --> 01:08:01,260
distant light the rock anglia guys at

1546
01:08:06,410 --> 01:08:03,630
light on and told people before they

1547
01:08:09,020 --> 01:08:06,420
fished these sheer rock faces in the 2-2

1548
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:09,030
floor enjoyed Fortin he's about half a

1549
01:08:12,890 --> 01:08:10,890
mile away in distance then we're just

1550
01:08:15,380 --> 01:08:12,900
sat there i set a tripod up i don't get

1551
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:15,390
camera out i'll leave it packed away

1552
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:17,040
because of moisture in here but if they

1553
01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:19,110
occurred would put it on tripod so it's

1554
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:21,420
their tripod set up and we sat in

1555
01:08:25,730 --> 01:08:23,970
darkness one interesting thing really

1556
01:08:29,260 --> 01:08:25,740
what rock angler and that out that shows

1557
01:08:31,490 --> 01:08:29,270
out said was get we go we are in really

1558
01:08:33,890 --> 01:08:31,500
thought you need that move about and

1559
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:33,900
then i don't know 30 minutes later we

1560
01:08:37,970 --> 01:08:35,850
see he's on the move and he's coming

1561
01:08:40,730 --> 01:08:37,980
towards us so when he gets from to about

1562
01:08:42,020 --> 01:08:40,740
a ton of 200 yards away I said to Bob I

1563
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:42,030
says I'm gonna put my light and I don't

1564
01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:43,890
want to startle him here you know

1565
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:45,510
because we're just chatting back and we

1566
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:47,370
must look odd if you encounter two blobs

1567
01:08:53,630 --> 01:08:50,330
just in the darkness support light him

1568
01:09:04,370 --> 01:08:53,640
and as he approaches so his easel will

1569
01:09:06,500 --> 01:09:04,380
out worry me if he knows where there is

1570
01:09:08,450 --> 01:09:06,510
aware of a Suzy draws up close we said

1571
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:08,460
how are you doing and all of you caught

1572
01:09:13,370 --> 01:09:10,650
anything and he sort of red lights

1573
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:13,380
dazzling is and this is what your guys

1574
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:14,850
doing appear not told him I says we have

1575
01:09:19,490 --> 01:09:16,530
to film in these lights that are been

1576
01:09:23,060 --> 01:09:19,500
appearing over that see and so he stops

1577
01:09:24,980 --> 01:09:23,070
his little box down he says a fish these

1578
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:24,990
cliffs I mean bubble really they said

1579
01:09:28,310 --> 01:09:26,850
well we've interviewed him now and he's

1580
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:28,320
gonna be in that documentary that mean

1581
01:09:32,180 --> 01:09:30,570
Chris Turner are doing so it's I'm

1582
01:09:34,970 --> 01:09:32,190
relating what he said he says I fished

1583
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:34,980
these cliff tops now for 49 years it

1584
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:38,490
could be 50 years later this year he

1585
01:09:44,060 --> 01:09:41,730
says and you would not believe what I've

1586
01:09:45,710 --> 01:09:44,070
seen up here us as really says yeah it

1587
01:09:48,230 --> 01:09:45,720
says do you want to tell us a little bit

1588
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:48,240
about it have you got time and it sort

1589
01:09:51,950 --> 01:09:49,650
of

1590
01:09:55,130 --> 01:09:51,960
about 9:00 p.m. actually and so it's not

1591
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:55,140
that late and he told me to scene

1592
01:10:00,110 --> 01:09:57,810
unusual activity I put the area base

1593
01:10:02,090 --> 01:10:00,120
first as if when the big fish in there

1594
01:10:06,350 --> 01:10:02,100
and took two away years ago were to

1595
01:10:08,419 --> 01:10:06,360
occupy mid-1970s to eighties he's seen

1596
01:10:10,459 --> 01:10:08,429
groups of people going up there and

1597
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:10,469
descending into a bunker and we're not

1598
01:10:14,270 --> 01:10:12,810
talking school boys and and kids wanting

1599
01:10:16,850 --> 01:10:14,280
a bit of a thrill because I've got

1600
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:16,860
evidence now of the satanic cult as in

1601
01:10:21,020 --> 01:10:19,530
the hoods and the robes and the books

1602
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:21,030
that they were using but that's for

1603
01:10:25,700 --> 01:10:23,010
another story that's really deep that

1604
01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:25,710
that's horrible to be honest book there

1605
01:10:30,050 --> 01:10:27,360
we go so when you were talking about

1606
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:30,060
witchcraft earlier Phillip in these

1607
01:10:36,620 --> 01:10:34,650
areas that cult in in just jumping from

1608
01:10:39,229 --> 01:10:36,630
this story for a moment in the first

1609
01:10:41,810 --> 01:10:39,239
book truth proof one I talked about an

1610
01:10:43,700 --> 01:10:41,820
alleged satanic cult in the second book

1611
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:43,710
II was still an alleged satanical

1612
01:10:49,610 --> 01:10:46,770
bordering on it could be real now

1613
01:10:52,939 --> 01:10:49,620
there's no alleged about it they were

1614
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:52,949
they were operating down there mid 70s

1615
01:10:58,820 --> 01:10:56,370
to mid about 1995 I would have thought

1616
01:11:02,780 --> 01:10:58,830
and we even know what they were

1617
01:11:04,250 --> 01:11:02,790
practicing and his dad stuff what they

1618
01:11:06,830 --> 01:11:04,260
were doing down there and I don't know

1619
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:06,840
whether they they touched on the

1620
01:11:11,919 --> 01:11:09,600
phenomena and somehow enhanced it or

1621
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:11,929
drew on it I don't know how it works but

1622
01:11:17,689 --> 01:11:15,210
back to the rock angler sorry guys

1623
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:17,699
so he's fished these cliff tops and then

1624
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:19,890
he yeah I've told him about the lights

1625
01:11:23,090 --> 01:11:21,690
we were trying to film and he said he I

1626
01:11:25,370 --> 01:11:23,100
said I said I'll herb that you'd been up

1627
01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:25,380
here trying to film it we knew that you

1628
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:27,630
were coming up I said okay they says

1629
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:30,090
well he said strangest thing I've seen

1630
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:33,810
is a UFO that landed and he pointed to

1631
01:11:37,459 --> 01:11:35,730
field it back and went dark obviously

1632
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:37,469
but you can see the contours of the

1633
01:11:41,870 --> 01:11:40,530
London this the band of sky above and he

1634
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:41,880
said it wondered in that field over

1635
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:45,120
there was really said yep it says it

1636
01:11:48,740 --> 01:11:46,560
were a fishing match we were having a

1637
01:11:52,669 --> 01:11:48,750
fishing much I'd already heard the story

1638
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:52,679
this is lots interesting from from the

1639
01:11:57,950 --> 01:11:55,290
son of one of the rock anglers he told

1640
01:11:59,540 --> 01:11:57,960
me that his dad came on one night very

1641
01:12:02,000 --> 01:11:59,550
frightened and he'd left all his fishing

1642
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:02,010
gear on the cliff top but he'd never say

1643
01:12:05,420 --> 01:12:03,450
what it was

1644
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:05,430
and lately you're not determining later

1645
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:07,650
came out that it claimed he'd seen a

1646
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:10,290
spaceship on clifftops and I'm thinking

1647
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:12,210
this has got to be the same night in

1648
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:14,970
further into the conversation I asked

1649
01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:16,650
him if he knew this guy and he did and

1650
01:12:23,450 --> 01:12:21,510
it was the same night so he told me we

1651
01:12:26,750 --> 01:12:23,460
agreed I said would you tell us about it

1652
01:12:28,580 --> 01:12:26,760
on film and we agreed to pick him up at

1653
01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:28,590
the following week and I wanted to get

1654
01:12:33,290 --> 01:12:30,450
the details of it and we'll set a big

1655
01:12:35,390 --> 01:12:33,300
LED light up on the clifftops and Bob

1656
01:12:37,070 --> 01:12:35,400
got the ank camera and we got us both in

1657
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:37,080
for him and he's talking about this

1658
01:12:43,130 --> 01:12:41,040
story he said I'm sorta I'm fishing this

1659
01:12:46,010 --> 01:12:43,140
isn't a Sam it's a match night and it's

1660
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:46,020
November this isn't it's a lovely bright

1661
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:48,090
night not like tonight and the night we

1662
01:12:55,250 --> 01:12:50,010
filmed him it were quite windy and bit

1663
01:12:59,840 --> 01:12:55,260
wild then I asked him if he knew yeah he

1664
01:13:01,730 --> 01:12:59,850
says all yeah 1998 so amazing a ously we

1665
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:01,740
know it's not August but we've got

1666
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:04,290
November 1998 we've got a fisherman

1667
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:07,290
talking about our landed UFO 9 miles

1668
01:13:13,250 --> 01:13:10,410
away from where we've got allegedly a

1669
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:13,260
landed UFO at halong bay just months

1670
01:13:19,550 --> 01:13:16,290
apart I mean what's happening in 1998 is

1671
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:19,560
I find him amazing to be honest they

1672
01:13:22,610 --> 01:13:21,330
said or not he said they don't know why

1673
01:13:24,140 --> 01:13:22,620
I turned round he said it could have

1674
01:13:25,940 --> 01:13:24,150
been because of the lights of the other

1675
01:13:27,860 --> 01:13:25,950
fisherman is because suddenly things

1676
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:27,870
started moving on you're looking at the

1677
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:30,210
other guys and remember they don't sit

1678
01:13:33,890 --> 01:13:32,130
together like round the pond with a

1679
01:13:35,540 --> 01:13:33,900
little pogs if ever you've ever done

1680
01:13:37,220 --> 01:13:35,550
fishing it's not my thing but that's

1681
01:13:39,620 --> 01:13:37,230
what they do this is there's sometimes

1682
01:13:41,210 --> 01:13:39,630
quarter a mile after mile a mile apart

1683
01:13:43,700 --> 01:13:41,220
but you can see the lights in the

1684
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:43,710
darkness so turned round and looked over

1685
01:13:48,140 --> 01:13:46,080
to that field this isn't a thought

1686
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:48,150
what's a combine harvester doing at this

1687
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:50,510
time of night in November

1688
01:13:55,580 --> 01:13:52,530
this isn't that I'm looking it says

1689
01:13:58,190 --> 01:13:55,590
don't think you're Arab it's in sky it's

1690
01:14:02,510 --> 01:13:58,200
about 30 foot off the ground I can see

1691
01:14:05,570 --> 01:14:02,520
the band of sky below the London that

1692
01:14:07,780 --> 01:14:05,580
you know and below the object this isn't

1693
01:14:10,610 --> 01:14:07,790
the other guys have obviously seen it

1694
01:14:11,810 --> 01:14:10,620
you can you they're not shouting but you

1695
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:11,820
know you can tell there's a bit of

1696
01:14:17,089 --> 01:14:15,930
animated voices and he says I'm watching

1697
01:14:18,739 --> 01:14:17,099
this thing he says only other

1698
01:14:20,569 --> 01:14:18,749
they're about 500 yards away he says

1699
01:14:22,299 --> 01:14:20,579
he's slowly coming down hiss isn't as

1700
01:14:25,580 --> 01:14:22,309
its as it comes down

1701
01:14:27,500 --> 01:14:25,590
he said there's all sparks coming from

1702
01:14:28,569 --> 01:14:27,510
it there's light spinning around it all

1703
01:14:31,909 --> 01:14:28,579
over the place

1704
01:14:36,049 --> 01:14:31,919
arcing and sparking and flashes and

1705
01:14:37,819 --> 01:14:36,059
everything on this thing he said as it

1706
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:37,829
approaches the ground he says the ground

1707
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:41,489
all around it set on fire now says what

1708
01:14:44,779 --> 01:14:43,679
did you do it says well he's I mean

1709
01:14:46,099 --> 01:14:44,789
you've gotta laugh at these guys I'm

1710
01:14:46,909 --> 01:14:46,109
sorry for saying it lies he's really had

1711
01:14:50,089 --> 01:14:46,919
a bag of fish

1712
01:14:52,189 --> 01:14:50,099
I couldn't investigate I had to go he

1713
01:14:54,859 --> 01:14:52,199
says look we knew we had to get out of

1714
01:14:56,540 --> 01:14:54,869
area or any road he says and everybody

1715
01:14:58,759 --> 01:14:56,550
just left he says we didn't want to be

1716
01:15:00,049 --> 01:14:58,769
what they did the thing that amused me

1717
01:15:02,270 --> 01:15:00,059
when he said I had a bag of fish I mean

1718
01:15:04,279 --> 01:15:02,280
to me this would be sorter I've got to

1719
01:15:06,859 --> 01:15:04,289
I've got the Tran document this but this

1720
01:15:08,569 --> 01:15:06,869
guy wanted to send him bag of fish what

1721
01:15:11,869 --> 01:15:08,579
no no

1722
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:11,879
so anyway that's his story but don't you

1723
01:15:17,509 --> 01:15:14,249
find it amazing that so much were

1724
01:15:19,459 --> 01:15:17,519
happening in 1998 this is the same was

1725
01:15:22,489 --> 01:15:19,469
quite interested in there Paul is the

1726
01:15:24,529 --> 01:15:22,499
fact that that the these craft coming

1727
01:15:26,989 --> 01:15:24,539
down that is just described here it's

1728
01:15:30,770 --> 01:15:26,999
very similar to the description of jambe

1729
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:30,780
yeah well yeah sparking arc in it that's

1730
01:15:34,609 --> 01:15:33,090
correct yeah there is words I mean that

1731
01:15:38,810 --> 01:15:34,619
is it as I say he's been kind enough to

1732
01:15:40,369 --> 01:15:38,820
us a lot allow me to film him and I just

1733
01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:40,379
I don't know what to make of it Peter

1734
01:15:47,209 --> 01:15:43,550
and you guys might remember this

1735
01:15:48,799 --> 01:15:47,219
can you remember I think it was 1998 but

1736
01:15:50,899 --> 01:15:48,809
I don't know the month I don't think

1737
01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:50,909
they actually gave the month that

1738
01:15:56,839 --> 01:15:53,820
allegedly there was a giant UFO pursued

1739
01:16:00,009 --> 01:15:56,849
over the North Sea traveling at 17,000

1740
01:16:03,139 --> 01:16:00,019
miles an hour it made the national

1741
01:16:04,250 --> 01:16:03,149
newspapers and I don't know if you can

1742
01:16:07,849 --> 01:16:04,260
you cast your mind back that thought

1743
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:07,859
wasn't the wasn't this the one that

1744
01:16:12,830 --> 01:16:09,510
wasn't seeing there Denver's correct

1745
01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:12,840
yeah that's correct yeah so we've got

1746
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,729
we've got that going off as well

1747
01:16:20,869 --> 01:16:16,800
something tells me that that would you

1748
01:16:22,879 --> 01:16:20,879
nodule I think we're in July paper so

1749
01:16:25,339 --> 01:16:22,889
you know we haven't got an actual date

1750
01:16:28,759 --> 01:16:25,349
Florie and can you remember that one

1751
01:16:30,919 --> 01:16:28,769
Phillip vaguely yes I don't know the

1752
01:16:32,899 --> 01:16:30,929
details but it does ring a bell yes

1753
01:16:37,510 --> 01:16:32,909
well I think it was explained away as a

1754
01:16:43,390 --> 01:16:37,520
disgruntled mo D employee who put it out

1755
01:16:45,950 --> 01:16:43,400
and it was some kind of fictitious story

1756
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:45,960
although the the newspapers of the day

1757
01:16:52,669 --> 01:16:48,570
stood by their source and the guy would

1758
01:16:56,899 --> 01:16:52,679
the story out stood by his story because

1759
01:16:58,250 --> 01:16:56,909
he was X M OD X you know also what

1760
01:17:01,370 --> 01:16:58,260
interests me about what you've just

1761
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:01,380
explained Paul you know this gentleman

1762
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:04,770
the the fisherman yeah and and you will

1763
01:17:12,260 --> 01:17:08,159
note it time and time again when people

1764
01:17:14,350 --> 01:17:12,270
have these encounters experiences

1765
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:14,360
sightings whatever you want to call them

1766
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:17,730
you don't actually do what you think

1767
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:22,130
they do you know there's this amazing

1768
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:25,770
vision in front of him and he's more

1769
01:17:32,689 --> 01:17:28,800
concerned about his bag of fish yeah I

1770
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:32,699
mean I remember yeah Anna and time and

1771
01:17:41,629 --> 01:17:36,690
time again I've spoken to people and

1772
01:17:45,109 --> 01:17:41,639
they've been amazed at their own

1773
01:17:47,209 --> 01:17:45,119
reaction you know and and then

1774
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:47,219
afterwards Philip you mean yeah they've

1775
01:17:51,649 --> 01:17:48,960
thought about the account active had

1776
01:17:53,870 --> 01:17:51,659
seen hindsight yeah I think come on why

1777
01:17:58,189 --> 01:17:53,880
did I do that why didn't I go and do

1778
01:18:02,060 --> 01:17:58,199
this you know so it's nothing scientific

1779
01:18:04,729 --> 01:18:02,070
ball no but it's an indication when

1780
01:18:07,550 --> 01:18:04,739
people tell you things like this that

1781
01:18:09,530 --> 01:18:07,560
you know they're not pulling your leg it

1782
01:18:12,649 --> 01:18:09,540
wasn't something conventional dad

1783
01:18:16,669 --> 01:18:12,659
mistakenly seen it's whatever it is it's

1784
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:16,679
the genuine article you know and it's

1785
01:18:20,689 --> 01:18:19,199
it's like you know and I've heard it

1786
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:20,699
time and time again and they've said I

1787
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:22,110
don't know why I did that I don't know

1788
01:18:26,750 --> 01:18:23,760
why I didn't go and get me camera for

1789
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:26,760
example or there was somebody stood in

1790
01:18:30,859 --> 01:18:28,650
the bus stop next to me why I didn't

1791
01:18:33,109 --> 01:18:30,869
draw their attention to it and when I

1792
01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:33,119
saw it and things like that this chap

1793
01:18:39,649 --> 01:18:35,280
you know is more interested in his bag

1794
01:18:42,020 --> 01:18:39,659
of fish no you haven't you just give it

1795
01:18:43,850 --> 01:18:42,030
the nail on the head I mean he said that

1796
01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:43,860
he's actually said to us on the cliff

1797
01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:45,510
she said I don't know why I didn't go

1798
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,510
and investigate it really he said and I

1799
01:18:52,459 --> 01:18:50,880
could have done he said look I knew I'd

1800
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:52,469
got to get out of area he says everybody

1801
01:19:00,500 --> 01:18:54,960
else left he said what I've got a bag of

1802
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:00,510
fish it was a Wayne it's just incredible

1803
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:02,489
so he's told us this story now this

1804
01:19:09,770 --> 01:19:05,280
where it gets interesting for me so it

1805
01:19:12,109 --> 01:19:09,780
was forget 1998 for a moment and know

1806
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:12,119
exactly where I'm going in a while with

1807
01:19:15,709 --> 01:19:14,010
the zone there's only us on the covers

1808
01:19:18,500 --> 01:19:15,719
of that the night is discussing this

1809
01:19:20,750 --> 01:19:18,510
sighting with us there's a match now

1810
01:19:22,930 --> 01:19:20,760
this part of it interests me when I talk

1811
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:22,940
about the light forms look over the sea

1812
01:19:29,149 --> 01:19:26,400
because Andy Bambi one at rock anglers

1813
01:19:30,649 --> 01:19:29,159
has noted this it's not my it's not

1814
01:19:32,750 --> 01:19:30,659
really a revelation or anything but it's

1815
01:19:34,490 --> 01:19:32,760
not me that's noted it but he said we

1816
01:19:36,919 --> 01:19:34,500
seem to I go on the clifftops quite a

1817
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:36,929
lot regardless of whether I'm fishing or

1818
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,520
not he said blab noted that usually or

1819
01:19:46,340 --> 01:19:43,679
not usually but when the scene there's a

1820
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:46,350
fishing map John and Duvall got these

1821
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:48,570
big powerful LED lights facing out to

1822
01:19:51,260 --> 01:19:50,010
sea and I'm thinking is that what is the

1823
01:19:52,700 --> 01:19:51,270
source happening here is the summit

1824
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:52,710
we're missing a trick we're missing here

1825
01:19:58,729 --> 01:19:54,810
because this particular night when we

1826
01:20:00,800 --> 01:19:58,739
interviewed this rock angler about his

1827
01:20:02,990 --> 01:20:00,810
sighting of 1998 there was a fishing

1828
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:03,000
match on he wasn't involved in it

1829
01:20:07,820 --> 01:20:05,130
he'd been fishing you know the previous

1830
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:07,830
week on his own big noise going on now I

1831
01:20:12,109 --> 01:20:09,449
mean the guys in his 60s and I don't

1832
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:12,119
even know if he does match fish Engel so

1833
01:20:16,970 --> 01:20:14,159
these guys are on cliff tops with the

1834
01:20:18,379 --> 01:20:16,980
LED lights miles away from us are a good

1835
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:18,389
distance away from us to can't hear what

1836
01:20:23,899 --> 01:20:22,110
we are talking about we've filmed him me

1837
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:23,909
and Bob Brown and we packed the cameras

1838
01:20:30,500 --> 01:20:25,170
away and we're just having a little

1839
01:20:34,340 --> 01:20:30,510
discussion on spot 10 minutes after the

1840
01:20:37,609 --> 01:20:34,350
lights appeared unbelievably good that a

1841
01:20:38,540 --> 01:20:37,619
beam Ian frame Phillip Chris Bob Brown

1842
01:20:42,140 --> 01:20:38,550
is my witness

1843
01:20:44,959 --> 01:20:42,150
the rock anglers as my witness they

1844
01:20:47,540 --> 01:20:44,969
appeared to huge orange globs of light

1845
01:20:50,810 --> 01:20:47,550
we're not talking Chinese lanterns just

1846
01:20:53,959 --> 01:20:50,820
switched on out at sea suddenly one it

1847
01:20:57,410 --> 01:20:53,969
appeared to the left of it lower down

1848
01:21:00,260 --> 01:20:57,420
not on the water in the sky

1849
01:21:03,140 --> 01:21:00,270
I not up in the heavens these are big

1850
01:21:04,970 --> 01:21:03,150
orange globs of life they switched off

1851
01:21:08,090 --> 01:21:04,980
in sort of a sequence dink dink dink

1852
01:21:10,340 --> 01:21:08,100
gone we stood there sort of gobsmacked

1853
01:21:13,610 --> 01:21:10,350
our gets down for camera to film them or

1854
01:21:16,910 --> 01:21:13,620
try to they come on again same position

1855
01:21:19,610 --> 01:21:16,920
and then switch off don't get him on

1856
01:21:21,229 --> 01:21:19,620
film stand there with cameraman for 10

1857
01:21:23,510 --> 01:21:21,239
minutes nothing

1858
01:21:25,700 --> 01:21:23,520
put the camera away because this guy's

1859
01:21:26,689 --> 01:21:25,710
come to assisters normally otherwise me

1860
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:26,699
and blob would have probably stayed

1861
01:21:30,650 --> 01:21:28,710
there for a few hours and we've got you

1862
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:30,660
know he'd been good enough to come so I

1863
01:21:36,919 --> 01:21:32,850
took him home walking on the clifftops

1864
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:36,929
midway between the RSPB reserve and

1865
01:21:43,850 --> 01:21:40,050
where we were they appear again a row of

1866
01:21:47,150 --> 01:21:43,860
them no sound no indication implying

1867
01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:47,160
from anywhere just appear drop the bag

1868
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:49,080
to the ground go for the camera off

1869
01:21:53,090 --> 01:21:52,320
bigger stand there like a fall again for

1870
01:21:56,510 --> 01:21:53,100
10 minutes

1871
01:21:58,910 --> 01:21:56,520
nothing camera backing bag just before

1872
01:22:02,060 --> 01:21:58,920
we're about Eddie not to the RSPB

1873
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:02,070
reserve they're on again I didn't even

1874
01:22:08,419 --> 01:22:05,449
bother getting camera out that time so

1875
01:22:11,930 --> 01:22:08,429
is there something going off here do you

1876
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:11,940
know what I mean yeah I mean it reminds

1877
01:22:16,669 --> 01:22:15,120
me my best friend is a Norwegian chup I

1878
01:22:18,860 --> 01:22:16,679
know what you're gonna say now this is

1879
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:18,870
it what the colour Hazelden is yesterday

1880
01:22:26,270 --> 01:22:22,320
land in Norway yeah the height in in in

1881
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:26,280
this early to mid-1980s they were camped

1882
01:22:30,580 --> 01:22:27,810
in the hessdalen Valley with a whole

1883
01:22:33,709 --> 01:22:30,590
host of equipment and cameras and so on

1884
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:33,719
but it was so cold you know you couldn't

1885
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:35,489
leave the camera outside sitting just

1886
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:38,850
freeze and they'd have lookouts and they

1887
01:22:44,330 --> 01:22:40,770
used to have to wear protective suits it

1888
01:22:47,570 --> 01:22:44,340
was that cold and the shout there's the

1889
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:47,580
lights and my pal is called odd gunner

1890
01:22:53,060 --> 01:22:50,250
road he'd jump out of the tent or the

1891
01:22:55,610 --> 01:22:53,070
caravan with the camera and the lights

1892
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:55,620
would go out he kept back in the caravan

1893
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:00,000
and they come on again you know and he's

1894
01:23:06,050 --> 01:23:03,210
convinced that this happened so many

1895
01:23:08,890 --> 01:23:06,060
times it wasn't just once or twice I'm

1896
01:23:11,150 --> 01:23:08,900
convinced of it so many times it was

1897
01:23:13,670 --> 01:23:11,160
beyond coincidence

1898
01:23:15,740 --> 01:23:13,680
yeah what are these right I know I don't

1899
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:15,750
know I'm just I'm just relating what

1900
01:23:21,710 --> 01:23:18,930
he's what he's told me and of course

1901
01:23:24,350 --> 01:23:21,720
since then they have captured the lights

1902
01:23:27,050 --> 01:23:24,360
on film and I'm on camera a moving

1903
01:23:31,460 --> 01:23:27,060
camera they have a permanent scientific

1904
01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:31,470
station established in s Thailand now so

1905
01:23:37,070 --> 01:23:34,800
it can be reviewed remotely you don't

1906
01:23:39,950 --> 01:23:37,080
have to have people there but it's

1907
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:39,960
certainly in the early days and only the

1908
01:23:44,300 --> 01:23:42,480
other you know from my own experience I

1909
01:23:47,420 --> 01:23:44,310
haven't seen them but and although what

1910
01:23:49,250 --> 01:23:47,430
others that saw the lights when they

1911
01:23:52,580 --> 01:23:49,260
were in great profusion in her around

1912
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:52,590
Cal two more again would report similar

1913
01:23:58,960 --> 01:23:54,890
things you know that they appeared to

1914
01:24:03,470 --> 01:23:58,970
what's the word react yeah if you like

1915
01:24:04,070 --> 01:24:03,480
take human presence I call it what you

1916
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:04,080
will

1917
01:24:09,290 --> 01:24:07,290
now whether that is just coincidence or

1918
01:24:11,630 --> 01:24:09,300
the way we perceive things or whatever

1919
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:11,640
and don't really know but it's not

1920
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:14,850
unheard of Paul so he yeah cheap seats

1921
01:24:21,290 --> 01:24:19,130
it has been recorded before me we

1922
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:21,300
sorry Paul I was just going to say I

1923
01:24:27,530 --> 01:24:23,610
don't know if you're actually aware but

1924
01:24:33,170 --> 01:24:27,540
there are two reports from Whitby on the

1925
01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:33,180
18th of July 98 122 11 hours and the

1926
01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:39,270
other 123 26 hours now the earlier one

1927
01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:42,960
was a bright large cone-shaped single

1928
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:45,840
object and it was one and a half inches

1929
01:24:51,740 --> 01:24:49,440
in size when elder arm's length and it

1930
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:51,750
was static and it was moving in a

1931
01:24:56,620 --> 01:24:54,570
strange land downwards now whether

1932
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:56,630
that's down the coast or down from this

1933
01:25:01,940 --> 01:24:59,760
from just guy down you know but they're

1934
01:25:03,860 --> 01:25:01,950
those around about the same gear in

1935
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:03,870
terms as you're looking that's correct

1936
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:08,970
that's aware of them Chris and but I'll

1937
01:25:14,140 --> 01:25:10,770
probably speak to you about them

1938
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:14,150
tomorrow sometime if that's okay

1939
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:16,890
Phillips just been talking about the

1940
01:25:21,380 --> 01:25:18,960
lights how do you pronounce it Philip

1941
01:25:24,140 --> 01:25:21,390
hessdalen yeah that's correct Matt yeah

1942
01:25:24,650 --> 01:25:24,150
you know we'd observe this for years

1943
01:25:28,670 --> 01:25:24,660
from

1944
01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:28,680
probably 2006 on the eastern walls which

1945
01:25:32,810 --> 01:25:30,450
is very close to where we're observing

1946
01:25:34,660 --> 01:25:32,820
these things oversee the problem will

1947
01:25:37,310 --> 01:25:34,670
its same things we're observing and

1948
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:37,320
famous not famous for a good thing Steve

1949
01:25:41,780 --> 01:25:38,970
Ashley should say cuz we'd have cameras

1950
01:25:42,980 --> 01:25:41,790
out ready and we're out but put cameras

1951
01:25:44,900 --> 01:25:42,990
away and these bloody things are gonna

1952
01:25:50,020 --> 01:25:44,910
show now out there and they usually did

1953
01:25:52,310 --> 01:25:50,030
the week so there's got to be some some

1954
01:25:54,980 --> 01:25:52,320
northern coincidence there's something

1955
01:25:56,780 --> 01:25:54,990
happening here what what your friend was

1956
01:25:59,450 --> 01:25:56,790
describing and what he believed and what

1957
01:26:01,250 --> 01:25:59,460
me and Steve believe and I know you were

1958
01:26:04,460 --> 01:26:01,260
probably not convinced about it Philip

1959
01:26:06,410 --> 01:26:04,470
and I don't know but yeah I think I

1960
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:06,420
think this is more than coincidence I

1961
01:26:12,500 --> 01:26:08,850
think there is some kind of intelligence

1962
01:26:14,330 --> 01:26:12,510
behind this just what that intelligence

1963
01:26:16,370 --> 01:26:14,340
is I don't know but it's almost as if

1964
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:16,380
we've got it's at knowledge in our

1965
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:18,210
presence it's like all-knowing and

1966
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:20,850
all-seeing I don't know it perceives

1967
01:26:24,500 --> 01:26:22,890
what we're gonna do and then reacts I

1968
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:24,510
don't know but that's exactly what

1969
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:26,010
happened me and Bob had been on them

1970
01:26:30,770 --> 01:26:29,010
cliff tops for months and months and

1971
01:26:33,290 --> 01:26:30,780
seeing nothing and that's what we were

1972
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:33,300
going for the intent of observing these

1973
01:26:37,550 --> 01:26:35,250
of you know what the way I look at it as

1974
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:37,560
well nope well as if there is some kind

1975
01:26:41,930 --> 01:26:39,690
of interaction there why doesn't it

1976
01:26:44,270 --> 01:26:41,940
happen every time because people see the

1977
01:26:46,900 --> 01:26:44,280
lights people take photographs of them

1978
01:26:50,090 --> 01:26:46,910
people film them so it doesn't happen

1979
01:26:55,070 --> 01:26:50,100
every time you know like it's like with

1980
01:26:59,240 --> 01:26:55,080
with abductions right there are those

1981
01:27:01,480 --> 01:26:59,250
that claim that they the abductors the

1982
01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:01,490
aliens whatever you like to call them

1983
01:27:09,740 --> 01:27:05,760
put some kind of memory block on their

1984
01:27:12,050 --> 01:27:09,750
victims that it is like too removed and

1985
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:12,060
the partially or in whole by the use of

1986
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:14,490
hypnosis but then there's others that

1987
01:27:18,380 --> 01:27:16,290
remember everything without the use of

1988
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:18,390
hypnosis you think the aliens would

1989
01:27:22,970 --> 01:27:20,370
realize by now that whatever memory

1990
01:27:25,130 --> 01:27:22,980
blocks that were doing still he is of no

1991
01:27:28,370 --> 01:27:25,140
use because he just put some me under

1992
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:28,380
hypnosis and hey presto yeah they don't

1993
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:30,570
make a lot of sense to me I may be

1994
01:27:36,110 --> 01:27:33,210
totally wrong no no I listen Philip

1995
01:27:37,460 --> 01:27:36,120
you're getting your input your opinions

1996
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:37,470
are as valid as anybody's just like

1997
01:27:41,629 --> 01:27:38,489
Chris's are

1998
01:27:43,700 --> 01:27:41,639
mine cannot even lay it out how it makes

1999
01:27:46,700 --> 01:27:43,710
us feel or what we think about it now

2000
01:27:49,250 --> 01:27:46,710
I've I have had experience of these

2001
01:27:52,279 --> 01:27:49,260
beings and I don't want to go off like

2002
01:27:54,290 --> 01:27:52,289
some weirdo eeab where I'm I know I've

2003
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:54,300
seen them not imaginations of a child

2004
01:27:59,779 --> 01:27:57,210
I've seen these beings and all I can say

2005
01:28:02,149 --> 01:27:59,789
is I've got little cameos of events from

2006
01:28:04,939 --> 01:28:02,159
childhood and I bet you there isn't a

2007
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:04,949
night goes by that I don't weigh trying

2008
01:28:09,169 --> 01:28:07,170
to get a little bit further and I can't

2009
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:09,179
hmm I've never had any of this

2010
01:28:13,879 --> 01:28:11,010
regression stuff I don't know if I'd

2011
01:28:16,370 --> 01:28:13,889
want to but I never have and they're not

2012
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:16,380
massive thick stories that I couldn't

2013
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:19,010
relate to people they're just little

2014
01:28:24,799 --> 01:28:21,570
snapshots of things that have happened

2015
01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:24,809
and seeing them and seen seeing what's

2016
01:28:30,020 --> 01:28:27,840
happened and I can't get any further but

2017
01:28:32,569 --> 01:28:30,030
I don't know why other how they're able

2018
01:28:34,430 --> 01:28:32,579
to do what they do Phillip what I do I'm

2019
01:28:38,899 --> 01:28:34,440
just I don't know what time we've got

2020
01:28:41,169 --> 01:28:38,909
guys what we we've got about what I was

2021
01:28:45,109 --> 01:28:41,179
discussing recently I mean one of the

2022
01:28:49,879 --> 01:28:45,119
books that I'll be publishing on May the

2023
01:28:52,580 --> 01:28:49,889
1st actually is by astronomer Romanian

2024
01:28:55,939 --> 01:28:52,590
astronomer dr. Dan Farkas now Don's

2025
01:29:00,169 --> 01:28:55,949
downs first book with me was all about

2026
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:00,179
UFOs in general in Romania yeah but at

2027
01:29:05,870 --> 01:29:02,730
the end of that he put in a chapter

2028
01:29:09,049 --> 01:29:05,880
about his home hypotheses of how to

2029
01:29:11,229 --> 01:29:09,059
explain well possibly explain the

2030
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:11,239
phenomena because what puzzled him

2031
01:29:17,419 --> 01:29:14,489
things his words not mine some of the

2032
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:17,429
stupid things that the youth were not

2033
01:29:23,450 --> 01:29:20,010
said he calls them do they don't seem to

2034
01:29:25,910 --> 01:29:23,460
make any sense whatsoever so I suggested

2035
01:29:28,729 --> 01:29:25,920
that perhaps you be write a complete

2036
01:29:32,930 --> 01:29:28,739
book there now his hypothesis and he

2037
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:32,940
calls it hyper civilizations now you

2038
01:29:40,419 --> 01:29:36,210
know he is convinced that we are being

2039
01:29:45,649 --> 01:29:40,429
visited by beings from elsewhere yeah

2040
01:29:48,259 --> 01:29:45,659
but what he has postulated out I'll say

2041
01:29:51,469 --> 01:29:48,269
is that they're not just a couple of

2042
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:51,479
thousand years in advance of us they

2043
01:29:54,830 --> 01:29:52,290
could be

2044
01:29:58,400 --> 01:29:54,840
millions of years in advance and I would

2045
01:30:03,050 --> 01:29:58,410
agree and the fact is that they are so

2046
01:30:06,340 --> 01:30:03,060
advanced is that we are or Melissa we I

2047
01:30:10,460 --> 01:30:06,350
mean we as a species as Homo sapiens

2048
01:30:12,770 --> 01:30:10,470
simply are unable to comprehend them and

2049
01:30:16,490 --> 01:30:12,780
he gives an example it says if you get

2050
01:30:18,140 --> 01:30:16,500
TV set and stick it in an ounce nest and

2051
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:18,150
the ounce will crawl all over it

2052
01:30:23,900 --> 01:30:20,970
there'll be a word of its presence but

2053
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:23,910
because of the difference between was

2054
01:30:27,170 --> 01:30:25,650
the humans and them the ants they'll

2055
01:30:32,750 --> 01:30:27,180
never in a million years be able to

2056
01:30:36,350 --> 01:30:32,760
figure out what on earth it is yeah

2057
01:30:39,410 --> 01:30:36,360
that's just his idea and he said the you

2058
01:30:42,410 --> 01:30:39,420
for not are not doing stupid things it's

2059
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:42,420
just that it's not on we can't we

2060
01:30:46,220 --> 01:30:44,730
understand them we're not capable of

2061
01:30:49,010 --> 01:30:46,230
understanding him you see it's like

2062
01:30:51,590 --> 01:30:49,020
trying to imagine a new color you just

2063
01:30:53,480 --> 01:30:51,600
can't do it well I think that's how

2064
01:30:55,730 --> 01:30:53,490
you're a few weeks ago dinner you do

2065
01:30:57,710 --> 01:30:55,740
that absolutely any and it's after I

2066
01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:57,720
have to I have to be honest you know

2067
01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:01,440
what my I don't I don't pin a hypothesis

2068
01:31:05,390 --> 01:31:03,450
on anything I'm like my minds change

2069
01:31:08,060 --> 01:31:05,400
down the years but that's one of the

2070
01:31:09,650 --> 01:31:08,070
things that's made me think again well

2071
01:31:12,170 --> 01:31:09,660
you know guys analogy what you've just

2072
01:31:14,930 --> 01:31:12,180
come out with I think is brilliant and

2073
01:31:16,700 --> 01:31:14,940
you know it really is and I think I said

2074
01:31:19,310 --> 01:31:16,710
to you about if we try to imagine a new

2075
01:31:20,780 --> 01:31:19,320
color now if you've seen it you know

2076
01:31:22,610 --> 01:31:20,790
what it looks like it's in your head

2077
01:31:25,460 --> 01:31:22,620
Philip but how do you tell anyone else

2078
01:31:28,250 --> 01:31:25,470
and another thing

2079
01:31:30,230 --> 01:31:28,260
fill it in Chris we've got to also I

2080
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:30,240
don't mean understand because I might be

2081
01:31:35,260 --> 01:31:33,210
totally wrong a book the motives of

2082
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:35,270
these other beings are these other

2083
01:31:42,050 --> 01:31:38,730
intelligences they might not be anything

2084
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:42,060
like what we perceive them to be we I

2085
01:31:48,650 --> 01:31:45,170
mean will we look at everything in in

2086
01:31:51,230 --> 01:31:48,660
the drama from an angle of what we could

2087
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:51,240
get out of it what we would want how we

2088
01:31:57,110 --> 01:31:55,170
would go about dissecting another life

2089
01:31:59,290 --> 01:31:57,120
form or doing what they might not be

2090
01:32:02,420 --> 01:31:59,300
wanting anything that we actually

2091
01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:02,430
believe they want it might not even be

2092
01:32:08,270 --> 01:32:05,760
anything physical that they were option

2093
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:08,280
give you a human example of what we're

2094
01:32:12,860 --> 01:32:09,930
talking about and I saw on the TV

2095
01:32:16,700 --> 01:32:12,870
recently I don't know where it was it's

2096
01:32:20,420 --> 01:32:16,710
going back quite a while in and it and

2097
01:32:24,380 --> 01:32:20,430
it relates to Hall and the first person

2098
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:24,390
to ever be killed by a gun was a lady in

2099
01:32:30,950 --> 01:32:28,890
Hall and of course at the duck period I

2100
01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:30,960
can't remember what what pig what pity

2101
01:32:37,870 --> 01:32:32,880
but but we're going back a long way

2102
01:32:41,210 --> 01:32:37,880
a gun was totally unique

2103
01:32:43,220 --> 01:32:41,220
right so she walked in front of it and

2104
01:32:45,470 --> 01:32:43,230
got our brains blown out because she had

2105
01:32:47,540 --> 01:32:45,480
no idea what this thing was

2106
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:47,550
she couldn't perceive that this was a

2107
01:32:53,380 --> 01:32:50,970
you know a device that could kill her so

2108
01:32:55,940 --> 01:32:53,390
the first person to get killed by a gun

2109
01:32:58,850 --> 01:32:55,950
anywhere in Britain was a lady in Hull

2110
01:33:00,979 --> 01:32:58,860
quite by accident because we could

2111
01:33:02,990 --> 01:33:00,989
perceive what this thing was you know

2112
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:03,000
she knew what swords word and and you

2113
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:05,370
know things like that black gun and I

2114
01:33:10,550 --> 01:33:08,250
think it was saying when when some of

2115
01:33:12,770 --> 01:33:10,560
the explorers and the settlers landed in

2116
01:33:15,050 --> 01:33:12,780
in in what we call a new world and other

2117
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:15,060
parts of the world that the natives

2118
01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:19,770
couldn't understand you know what what

2119
01:33:23,930 --> 01:33:21,450
was happening they could recognize as

2120
01:33:25,250 --> 01:33:23,940
humans but certainly it's all the things

2121
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:25,260
we had would beyond their imagination

2122
01:33:32,090 --> 01:33:28,890
and so a few times that by a couple of

2123
01:33:34,250 --> 01:33:32,100
million years and I've tried to do

2124
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:34,260
that's right to do it in reverse

2125
01:33:40,010 --> 01:33:37,890
that said scientists and I believe them

2126
01:33:43,070 --> 01:33:40,020
say that they the second most

2127
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:43,080
intelligent species on earth are the

2128
01:33:49,490 --> 01:33:46,530
dolphins right but really are the

2129
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:49,500
floating around in this a they even

2130
01:33:53,540 --> 01:33:51,090
think that they've got a rudimentary

2131
01:33:56,990 --> 01:33:53,550
language you have to come but can we

2132
01:33:58,550 --> 01:33:57,000
communicate with them no we cast we can

2133
01:34:01,550 --> 01:33:58,560
teach them to do look the Lopes and

2134
01:34:05,780 --> 01:34:01,560
catch a few fish but actually talk to

2135
01:34:09,020 --> 01:34:05,790
them so how on earth would we be able to

2136
01:34:11,420 --> 01:34:09,030
communicate and understand something

2137
01:34:16,090 --> 01:34:11,430
that was millions of years in advance of

2138
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:16,100
us the answer is it's impossible in Gale

2139
01:34:19,699 --> 01:34:18,930
just before we end this can I just tell

2140
01:34:23,569 --> 01:34:19,709
you someone else

2141
01:34:26,810 --> 01:34:23,579
1998 okay gosh you can pop but what I

2142
01:34:31,910 --> 01:34:26,820
want to do is also catch up maybe one or

2143
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:31,920
two would be weld older cases yes time

2144
01:34:37,100 --> 01:34:33,449
for this it's okay you just find a way

2145
01:34:40,399 --> 01:34:37,110
then well what I want you to do the last

2146
01:34:43,580 --> 01:34:40,409
time mean you spoke on the oh no we're a

2147
01:34:47,569 --> 01:34:43,590
radio show was then we discuss Wilson

2148
01:34:49,069 --> 01:34:47,579
yeah and I did the city at the time next

2149
01:34:50,989 --> 01:34:49,079
time we have a chat but you know what

2150
01:34:53,060 --> 01:34:50,999
I'll try and catch up with you about

2151
01:34:55,029 --> 01:34:53,070
that what's been happening with will

2152
01:35:01,069 --> 01:34:55,039
swap have you got any further

2153
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:01,079
give us a brief the will stop incident

2154
01:35:07,939 --> 01:35:03,090
didn't know a date at the time but it

2155
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:07,949
were 2009 and it was when I was running

2156
01:35:11,239 --> 01:35:09,090
my you a full website

2157
01:35:13,189 --> 01:35:11,249
LF you fo intelligent life forms that

2158
01:35:15,169 --> 01:35:13,199
year and now we're working quite a lot

2159
01:35:17,060 --> 01:35:15,179
so I was checking the reports and you

2160
01:35:20,270 --> 01:35:17,070
said in a paragraph or a couple of

2161
01:35:21,949 --> 01:35:20,280
paragraphs UFO sighted Canobie UFO

2162
01:35:24,410 --> 01:35:21,959
sighted and give a brief description of

2163
01:35:26,209 --> 01:35:24,420
what was being cited I'm rushing here

2164
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:26,219
guys because I realized times of an

2165
01:35:30,979 --> 01:35:29,130
issue and all these sightings were

2166
01:35:32,899 --> 01:35:30,989
building up the police officer sighting

2167
01:35:34,399 --> 01:35:32,909
which are sent to Gary Heseltine and he

2168
01:35:37,910 --> 01:35:34,409
never got back to me but that's another

2169
01:35:40,669 --> 01:35:37,920
story you know I think he probably want

2170
01:35:43,669 --> 01:35:40,679
to now because he's because the will

2171
01:35:45,109 --> 01:35:43,679
stop incident isn't interesting shall we

2172
01:35:46,759 --> 01:35:45,119
say book I mean I didn't realize the

2173
01:35:49,279 --> 01:35:46,769
significance of it at the time when the

2174
01:35:52,279 --> 01:35:49,289
police officer saw a black triangle

2175
01:35:54,049 --> 01:35:52,289
rise from a field as he's driving down

2176
01:35:55,459 --> 01:35:54,059
the road in a car at lights dimmed on

2177
01:35:57,649 --> 01:35:55,469
the car at the opposite side of the road

2178
01:35:59,359 --> 01:35:57,659
and he stopped he went to assist in a

2179
01:36:01,699 --> 01:35:59,369
triangle rose from the field and flew

2180
01:36:04,370 --> 01:36:01,709
out to sea so I've got this police

2181
01:36:07,069 --> 01:36:04,380
officer sighting at the same time there

2182
01:36:10,429 --> 01:36:07,079
were scientific investigation unit guns

2183
01:36:12,979 --> 01:36:10,439
packed in remote areas with these big

2184
01:36:15,049 --> 01:36:12,989
glass bubbles on top like a dark perspex

2185
01:36:17,390 --> 01:36:15,059
bubble and I'm not saying that they were

2186
01:36:19,339 --> 01:36:17,400
observing the UFO activity but we've got

2187
01:36:21,830 --> 01:36:19,349
a lady called Eileen Hobson an

2188
01:36:24,799 --> 01:36:21,840
accountant's wife all of damn stone a

2189
01:36:26,989 --> 01:36:24,809
few miles away and she'd observed cone

2190
01:36:28,879 --> 01:36:26,999
shaped objects landing in the fields at

2191
01:36:31,850 --> 01:36:28,889
the back of will stop at the same time

2192
01:36:33,110 --> 01:36:31,860
got it correlated with the ILF UFO

2193
01:36:34,970 --> 01:36:33,120
website

2194
01:36:37,610 --> 01:36:34,980
what I liked about this is that closed

2195
01:36:41,690 --> 01:36:37,620
the website in 2013 so I couldn't have

2196
01:36:43,850 --> 01:36:41,700
dragged anything from there to to to

2197
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:43,860
bolster the will stop incidents you to

2198
01:36:47,980 --> 01:36:45,690
say it was all there beforehand I do

2199
01:36:51,710 --> 01:36:47,990
nothing about the incredible sighting

2200
01:36:53,690 --> 01:36:51,720
you in fact it was a keep still there if

2201
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:53,700
people want to type in ILF UFO you'll

2202
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:55,170
find some green text on a black

2203
01:37:00,260 --> 01:36:57,690
background and the internet or whatever

2204
01:37:02,030 --> 01:37:00,270
it is the great machine that it is as

2205
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:02,040
archive pages and you can see the police

2206
01:37:05,150 --> 01:37:03,810
officer sighting the paragraph thought

2207
01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:05,160
it and you can see all the references

2208
01:37:09,110 --> 01:37:06,450
what I didn't know about the actual

2209
01:37:12,470 --> 01:37:09,120
event and this event the sixteen flats

2210
01:37:13,940 --> 01:37:12,480
of will stop the overlook the see I've

2211
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:13,950
said before if you've got a stone an

2212
01:37:17,930 --> 01:37:15,690
outside these people can throw a stone

2213
01:37:19,370 --> 01:37:17,940
into the sea and that's all that is it

2214
01:37:22,250 --> 01:37:19,380
will stop nothing else they were built

2215
01:37:27,260 --> 01:37:22,260
by the mo Dean 1935 approximately the

2216
01:37:29,420 --> 01:37:27,270
east plus so this clip will get up to go

2217
01:37:32,300 --> 01:37:29,430
to bed I think he was eleven o'clock and

2218
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:32,310
husband goes off and she decides she's

2219
01:37:38,660 --> 01:37:37,440
going to check the doors locked in

2220
01:37:40,610 --> 01:37:38,670
everything and she goes into the porch

2221
01:37:42,290 --> 01:37:40,620
and there's a communal light in the

2222
01:37:44,630 --> 01:37:42,300
middle these there in blocks before

2223
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:44,640
these flats and she thought next door

2224
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:46,530
had left the flat the light on outside

2225
01:37:51,470 --> 01:37:48,810
but she's able to turn it off

2226
01:37:55,550 --> 01:37:51,480
so she thought oh they've left light on

2227
01:37:58,160 --> 01:37:55,560
and sort of looked up the light but left

2228
01:38:00,650 --> 01:37:58,170
it and walked into the the living room

2229
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:00,660
and she's she said that she's walking in

2230
01:38:06,020 --> 01:38:03,090
she said a voice said to her go back and

2231
01:38:08,090 --> 01:38:06,030
look she's had enough I sort of stopped

2232
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:08,100
and thought today of that she's never

2233
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:09,930
him yet and he said go back and look

2234
01:38:14,870 --> 01:38:13,410
again so she did she said I couldn't

2235
01:38:17,060 --> 01:38:14,880
believe it she said there's a huge

2236
01:38:18,740 --> 01:38:17,070
circle and she didn't say boomerangs

2237
01:38:20,650 --> 01:38:18,750
I've got this out of her afterwards a

2238
01:38:24,860 --> 01:38:20,660
huge circle of those are words

2239
01:38:27,650 --> 01:38:24,870
spaceships over the scene very very

2240
01:38:30,500 --> 01:38:27,660
close high tide this is this this is the

2241
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:30,510
strange thing you can wade out there in

2242
01:38:36,230 --> 01:38:32,880
chest waders it's a very long lower flat

2243
01:38:37,700 --> 01:38:36,240
page this so I need to stress now and

2244
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:37,710
we're running out of time that days

2245
01:38:41,690 --> 01:38:39,570
before that the bait diggers were

2246
01:38:43,970 --> 01:38:41,700
employed in the harbor have seen a black

2247
01:38:46,700 --> 01:38:43,980
triangle entering the sea that seen it

2248
01:38:51,170 --> 01:38:49,490
which sounds impossible because the sea

2249
01:38:52,940 --> 01:38:51,180
is not deep enough for anything to go

2250
01:38:54,050 --> 01:38:52,950
below it where they'd seen it what

2251
01:38:57,470 --> 01:38:54,060
that's what we're told

2252
01:39:00,380 --> 01:38:57,480
so she shouts her husband he comes

2253
01:39:02,090 --> 01:39:00,390
running through and he can't believe it

2254
01:39:05,540 --> 01:39:02,100
and he's swearing I spoke to him both

2255
01:39:08,030 --> 01:39:05,550
and can't believe what I'm looking at he

2256
01:39:09,890 --> 01:39:08,040
says look like a giant Christmas tree

2257
01:39:12,050 --> 01:39:09,900
lights all in a circle over the sea

2258
01:39:14,210 --> 01:39:12,060
there's lightning firing down into the

2259
01:39:15,850 --> 01:39:14,220
sea and all sorts of things it's boiling

2260
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:15,860
like a big pan of hot water

2261
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:18,330
he's a suddenly he's seen enough and

2262
01:39:21,290 --> 01:39:19,890
he's frightened and he goes back to bed

2263
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:21,300
puts his head under the pillow says he

2264
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:22,770
didn't want to look think about this

2265
01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:24,330
till morning and that was it his wife

2266
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:27,450
stayed and listened sorry apologies guys

2267
01:39:33,140 --> 01:39:31,770
his wife stayed and observed now asked

2268
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:33,150
if you took this she consider taking

2269
01:39:36,260 --> 01:39:34,770
photographs and that but obviously she

2270
01:39:37,970 --> 01:39:36,270
said she didn't she didn't want to know

2271
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:37,980
that they were there but I think there

2272
01:39:42,650 --> 01:39:39,570
was some awareness if we could perceive

2273
01:39:44,150 --> 01:39:42,660
that an unseen voice spoke to her so

2274
01:39:46,250 --> 01:39:44,160
she's observing these things she said

2275
01:39:49,940 --> 01:39:46,260
for about 30 minutes they're all in a

2276
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:49,950
circle and then to leave that's about 45

2277
01:39:55,700 --> 01:39:52,050
degrees and disappear and this continued

2278
01:39:57,410 --> 01:39:55,710
until around midnight and that was just

2279
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:57,420
to over the sea and they just go

2280
01:40:02,930 --> 01:40:00,000
straight up now the next day she says

2281
01:40:04,490 --> 01:40:02,940
the military arrived she said I knew

2282
01:40:06,770 --> 01:40:04,500
what they were coming to talk for these

2283
01:40:08,750 --> 01:40:06,780
specials but they'd never find out find

2284
01:40:12,110 --> 01:40:08,760
them and the bait [\h__\h] they walked

2285
01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:12,120
onto the beach that same night and they

2286
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:14,490
were accosted by the military and told

2287
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:16,530
the order to leave the beach if they're

2288
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:18,930
not they're gonna get arrested the old

2289
01:40:21,890 --> 01:40:20,970
lady and her husband said that they've

2290
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:21,900
got searchlights

2291
01:40:26,990 --> 01:40:25,530
on the sea all night now I couldn't find

2292
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:27,000
a date for this and going through the

2293
01:40:30,410 --> 01:40:29,130
archives guys I'm told you've got to

2294
01:40:31,900 --> 01:40:30,420
pull me up if I'm running out of time

2295
01:40:37,150 --> 01:40:31,910
here

2296
01:40:44,420 --> 01:40:39,820
September 15 2009

2297
01:40:45,890 --> 01:40:44,430
it said links cited in Bridlington then

2298
01:40:48,380 --> 01:40:45,900
I thought wow I've got a big cat

2299
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:48,390
sighting here so I when I read it it's a

2300
01:40:52,850 --> 01:40:50,400
tool links helicopters to Apache

2301
01:40:55,550 --> 01:40:52,860
helicopter sorry to links helicopters to

2302
01:40:57,700 --> 01:40:55,560
Chinook helicopters military vehicles

2303
01:41:00,810 --> 01:40:57,710
all arrived itself but the south shore

2304
01:41:04,870 --> 01:41:00,820
beach which is will slop

2305
01:41:06,669 --> 01:41:04,880
for a top-secret military exercise which

2306
01:41:09,970 --> 01:41:06,679
the print paper top-secret military

2307
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:09,980
exercise it was so top secret that the

2308
01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:13,010
they've got males to the left Mouse to

2309
01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:15,679
the right of open beach but they set up

2310
01:41:20,770 --> 01:41:19,280
in front of this old lady's flat now

2311
01:41:23,050 --> 01:41:20,780
they stayed there for a number of days

2312
01:41:24,820 --> 01:41:23,060
conducting this top-secret exercise now

2313
01:41:26,890 --> 01:41:24,830
after a three diminution request in

2314
01:41:29,169 --> 01:41:26,900
which they confirmed that it were a

2315
01:41:31,149 --> 01:41:29,179
top-secret exercise and they said basic

2316
01:41:33,580 --> 01:41:31,159
I think the wording event essentially

2317
01:41:36,790 --> 01:41:33,590
was and he stimulated any explosions

2318
01:41:38,919 --> 01:41:36,800
were simulated any gunshots were blank

2319
01:41:41,290 --> 01:41:38,929
rounds well nobody reported hearing a

2320
01:41:50,290 --> 01:41:41,300
sound I think that was just fodder to

2321
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:50,300
fill filler me and basically a Coast

2322
01:41:55,780 --> 01:41:53,840
Guard friend of mine was not in not in

2323
01:41:59,620 --> 01:41:55,790
the East Yorkshire area but it's

2324
01:42:02,250 --> 01:41:59,630
familiar with it has looked into bits

2325
01:42:07,419 --> 01:42:02,260
for me a solid protected archive now

2326
01:42:09,609 --> 01:42:07,429
he's been pulled for looking but luckily

2327
01:42:13,060 --> 01:42:09,619
were looking at other stuff as well and

2328
01:42:15,820 --> 01:42:13,070
not got too deep into it and he's sorted

2329
01:42:17,979 --> 01:42:15,830
okay and there's a lesson to be learned

2330
01:42:19,780 --> 01:42:17,989
asking people to do things clear because

2331
01:42:21,370 --> 01:42:19,790
you know you're putting people's jobs in

2332
01:42:23,979 --> 01:42:21,380
jeopardy aren't ya you've got you know I

2333
01:42:26,709 --> 01:42:23,989
need to be a bit more careful but I know

2334
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:26,719
from that conversation that a 999 call

2335
01:42:34,660 --> 01:42:31,360
was made it were made to the police

2336
01:42:37,209 --> 01:42:34,670
initially about orange lights seen

2337
01:42:39,490 --> 01:42:37,219
traveling from whole orange light scene

2338
01:42:41,859 --> 01:42:39,500
traveling from flam bruh and the witness

2339
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:41,869
says that they were approaching what

2340
01:42:47,530 --> 01:42:44,449
looked like a black yacht sale in the

2341
01:42:50,859 --> 01:42:47,540
sky so that's that witness have yet to

2342
01:42:53,290 --> 01:42:50,869
find I know it exists and I know it's on

2343
01:42:54,669 --> 01:42:53,300
a you know Coast Guard report which I

2344
01:42:57,339 --> 01:42:54,679
can't get because it's in protected

2345
01:43:00,700 --> 01:42:57,349
archive but that witness is still out

2346
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:00,710
there and you know I'll just keep

2347
01:43:04,979 --> 01:43:02,570
digging like Phillip does like you do

2348
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:04,989
that's all we can do guys in it

2349
01:43:11,919 --> 01:43:09,290
absolutely what I wanted to do and now

2350
01:43:13,879 --> 01:43:11,929
Paul really is because we've got about

2351
01:43:16,399 --> 01:43:13,889
15 minutes left

2352
01:43:19,879 --> 01:43:16,409
what I wanted to do was just I know

2353
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:19,889
you're a prolific writer I do know that

2354
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:21,570
because of the articles you've provided

2355
01:43:26,780 --> 01:43:24,330
for outer limits magazine also the

2356
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:26,790
fracture you've already wrote to a very

2357
01:43:32,060 --> 01:43:29,280
successful books true proof one and

2358
01:43:34,459 --> 01:43:32,070
truth proof to I also know you're

2359
01:43:35,990 --> 01:43:34,469
working on two more books what is the

2360
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:36,000
state of these books that you're working

2361
01:43:40,939 --> 01:43:38,250
on when over gonna be released because

2362
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:40,949
I'm just certain I'm not the only person

2363
01:43:47,359 --> 01:43:43,650
who wants to read what you're investing

2364
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:47,369
I'm frustrated about 12 purl three no

2365
01:43:52,850 --> 01:43:50,130
Cal Jackson the publisher great guy and

2366
01:43:56,750 --> 01:43:52,860
that we work okay together and I'm happy

2367
01:43:58,040 --> 01:43:56,760
with two books book it's going slow he's

2368
01:44:00,680 --> 01:43:58,050
got the book it's finished

2369
01:44:03,290 --> 01:44:00,690
and our our promised edits every three

2370
01:44:03,890 --> 01:44:03,300
days and a few months ago and I'm still

2371
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:03,900
waiting

2372
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:07,530
it's obviously I've to work through and

2373
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:09,570
it's thorough is it as I say is a great

2374
01:44:13,430 --> 01:44:11,850
guy ain't really a big book but it can't

2375
01:44:14,750 --> 01:44:13,440
come quick enough for me all I can say

2376
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:14,760
is I'm hoping it's gonna be a couple of

2377
01:44:19,550 --> 01:44:16,530
months away it was supposed to be

2378
01:44:23,359 --> 01:44:19,560
finished now and you know because

2379
01:44:25,340 --> 01:44:23,369
everything's done is from my end yes and

2380
01:44:26,689 --> 01:44:25,350
I've got a few drawings to do but

2381
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:26,699
there's no desperation at the pace that

2382
01:44:31,580 --> 01:44:29,730
the books going the book force finished

2383
01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:31,590
just about I think I'm about seventy

2384
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:33,119
thousand words in and that's called the

2385
01:44:37,820 --> 01:44:35,850
night people and I've sort of witnessed

2386
01:44:41,620 --> 01:44:37,830
Raber to thank for that for encouraging

2387
01:44:43,820 --> 01:44:41,630
me to talk about my own experiences and

2388
01:44:48,140 --> 01:44:43,830
it's going to be frightening that book

2389
01:44:50,390 --> 01:44:48,150
to be honest we're not deliberately like

2390
01:44:52,850 --> 01:44:50,400
a horror film or anything but I didn't

2391
01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:52,860
realize and probably you've done same

2392
01:44:55,879 --> 01:44:54,239
feel it when you've been writing that

2393
01:44:57,500 --> 01:44:55,889
sometimes you write something I'm

2394
01:45:00,410 --> 01:44:57,510
somebody's you you get a bit of feedback

2395
01:45:01,790 --> 01:45:00,420
and in first book when there were things

2396
01:45:03,850 --> 01:45:01,800
I were writing about and Sony cuz all

2397
01:45:06,050 --> 01:45:03,860
that story were frightening

2398
01:45:07,550 --> 01:45:06,060
yeah I mean I mean some of the books

2399
01:45:09,830 --> 01:45:07,560
we've done in the past and we even had

2400
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:09,840
comments at the cou look scary before

2401
01:45:14,450 --> 01:45:13,110
they even read anything you know so yes

2402
01:45:17,090 --> 01:45:14,460
absolutely may yes

2403
01:45:18,859 --> 01:45:17,100
so I once have deliberately made night

2404
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:18,869
people frightening but I'm doing it

2405
01:45:24,589 --> 01:45:21,570
graphic because just to touch on them

2406
01:45:26,780 --> 01:45:24,599
experiences on my own I I'm not lying I

2407
01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:26,790
wet the bed to our thirteen years old I

2408
01:45:30,860 --> 01:45:27,450
would not leave

2409
01:45:31,940 --> 01:45:30,870
my room ident and the DEP told me dad

2410
01:45:34,670 --> 01:45:31,950
because he would you were an adorable

2411
01:45:35,990 --> 01:45:34,680
man and I had to say to his face by the

2412
01:45:38,540 --> 01:45:36,000
way if you were here now and he's passed

2413
01:45:40,730 --> 01:45:38,550
away bless him go he were a man that

2414
01:45:44,750 --> 01:45:40,740
would hit first and ask questions later

2415
01:45:46,370 --> 01:45:44,760
and I get I I don't tell him why I don't

2416
01:45:49,250 --> 01:45:46,380
tell him why I will do it why I wouldn't

2417
01:45:50,780 --> 01:45:49,260
leave the room on and I because I got

2418
01:45:54,380 --> 01:45:50,790
slapped anyway but I won't tell him why

2419
01:45:56,660 --> 01:45:54,390
cuz it just hit me even harder as can I

2420
01:45:59,630 --> 01:45:56,670
just ask you Paulus there's writing the

2421
01:46:01,520 --> 01:45:59,640
night people is that it's not being

2422
01:46:04,370 --> 01:46:01,530
cathartic in any ways it helps you've

2423
01:46:06,020 --> 01:46:04,380
come to to terms with some of the things

2424
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:06,030
that you went through yeah we're open it

2425
01:46:08,180 --> 01:46:07,170
we're going to check me further I would

2426
01:46:10,190 --> 01:46:08,190
okay now we're gonna have more

2427
01:46:12,770 --> 01:46:10,200
recollection I thought when I get deep

2428
01:46:14,480 --> 01:46:12,780
into it I'm gonna remember more and it's

2429
01:46:17,930 --> 01:46:14,490
happened on um took like we've toured

2430
01:46:20,060 --> 01:46:17,940
the story's one from about 1994 when we

2431
01:46:21,740 --> 01:46:20,070
moved to Bridlington and something

2432
01:46:24,410 --> 01:46:21,750
happened and I've got a little bit

2433
01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:24,420
further with it because I'm reluctant

2434
01:46:30,830 --> 01:46:28,110
this for the most part Chris and Phillip

2435
01:46:33,380 --> 01:46:30,840
I'm thinking your same I don't want to

2436
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:33,390
polish a story and make it sound I don't

2437
01:46:37,070 --> 01:46:34,770
want to add to it just to entertain

2438
01:46:41,390 --> 01:46:37,080
somebody I want it to be as close to

2439
01:46:43,070 --> 01:46:41,400
bone as possible because you get caught

2440
01:46:45,980 --> 01:46:43,080
out and I don't want to lie

2441
01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:45,990
do you know what I mean and so I so

2442
01:46:50,150 --> 01:46:47,520
that's that's how it's been but the

2443
01:46:51,860 --> 01:46:50,160
night people it's a culmination of from

2444
01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:51,870
about as early as I can remember because

2445
01:46:54,440 --> 01:46:53,040
there's a child that we all know we

2446
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:54,450
don't make a diary of things so I'm

2447
01:46:59,810 --> 01:46:56,610
thinking I'm 5 or 6 years old when I've

2448
01:47:01,670 --> 01:46:59,820
got these memories going through life he

2449
01:47:05,450 --> 01:47:01,680
stopped at about 14 I would have thought

2450
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:05,460
till about 24 25 and started again and

2451
01:47:11,270 --> 01:47:08,730
then stopped he stopped in 1998 because

2452
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:11,280
I've got the medical records that say

2453
01:47:14,660 --> 01:47:12,690
you've seen a monkey Chris with a

2454
01:47:17,690 --> 01:47:14,670
perplexed about initial lesions that

2455
01:47:21,830 --> 01:47:17,700
appear in him body and I could vote you

2456
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:21,840
for that but yeah just two stories that

2457
01:47:26,780 --> 01:47:24,210
have have just gone a little bit further

2458
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:26,790
I'd love to have elaborated and made him

2459
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:28,410
a lot better what you can you've got a

2460
01:47:32,420 --> 01:47:30,330
you've got a paint a picture I mean I'm

2461
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:32,430
not Travis Walton you can remember the

2462
01:47:38,030 --> 01:47:36,690
full details of his event and all other

2463
01:47:41,450 --> 01:47:38,040
people can but I can't

2464
01:47:46,110 --> 01:47:41,460
known only relate what I know you know

2465
01:47:48,690 --> 01:47:46,120
okay then sir truth proof three do you

2466
01:47:50,130 --> 01:47:48,700
want to give this smoothie I mean I'm

2467
01:47:52,260 --> 01:47:50,140
not saying going to create graphic

2468
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:52,270
detail because obviously I want people

2469
01:47:56,610 --> 01:47:55,090
to buy yep well give us some give us

2470
01:47:58,820 --> 01:47:56,620
some of the items from what's worth

2471
01:48:01,710 --> 01:47:58,830
Priya the large amount of the book

2472
01:48:03,930 --> 01:48:01,720
revolves around the cliffs lane story

2473
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:03,940
what we talked about at the Outer Limits

2474
01:48:09,930 --> 01:48:06,730
conference last year yeah because it's

2475
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:09,940
ongoing you know the the objects that

2476
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:12,610
are being seen around this area and the

2477
01:48:18,420 --> 01:48:14,890
the animal mutilations I didn't think

2478
01:48:20,510 --> 01:48:18,430
I'd be moving from UFO type stuff to

2479
01:48:21,690 --> 01:48:20,520
animal mutilations but he seems he's all

2480
01:48:24,750 --> 01:48:21,700
interconnected

2481
01:48:27,420 --> 01:48:24,760
and it's still happening so basically

2482
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:27,430
we've got we've got a lot of stories

2483
01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:29,650
around the center around cliff Lane

2484
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:32,080
strange triangle depressions that don't

2485
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:33,850
sound that exciting that appear

2486
01:48:39,660 --> 01:48:36,930
overnight in a pea crop that literally

2487
01:48:42,540 --> 01:48:39,670
erased all the crop and leave it just

2488
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:42,550
like a perfectly brown triangle in the

2489
01:48:47,130 --> 01:48:45,520
crop and from that you've got people on

2490
01:48:50,250 --> 01:48:47,140
the cliff tops coming to me and

2491
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:50,260
reporting seen triangles and small black

2492
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:53,920
triangles flying below the sea sorry I

2493
01:48:59,670 --> 01:48:55,570
booked the say obviously but below the

2494
01:49:02,760 --> 01:48:59,680
cliffs and it's just a culmination of a

2495
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:02,770
lot of different stories around the area

2496
01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:05,770
you know people see I'm just relating

2497
01:49:09,020 --> 01:49:07,360
people's experiences and people

2498
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:09,030
sightings

2499
01:49:18,510 --> 01:49:15,370
yeah ditto really not really no but

2500
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:18,520
that's perfectly found because it's in

2501
01:49:24,570 --> 01:49:21,850
reality then it's it's more the the

2502
01:49:27,330 --> 01:49:24,580
other two books TP 1 & 2 were more for

2503
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:27,340
the area one day from really from like

2504
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:30,370
Fowley flattened it's more than the same

2505
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:32,650
with this you're up yeah it's more of

2506
01:49:37,470 --> 01:49:34,930
the same but more concentrated on that

2507
01:49:40,050 --> 01:49:37,480
one area that's perfectly yeah yeah

2508
01:49:42,090 --> 01:49:40,060
because that does seem to be the central

2509
01:49:44,340 --> 01:49:42,100
area we're all these strange and

2510
01:49:46,860 --> 01:49:44,350
wonderful events around yeah and as you

2511
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:46,870
both you guys know for anybody listening

2512
01:49:51,060 --> 01:49:48,930
to this and I'm sure there's no

2513
01:49:52,260 --> 01:49:51,070
disrespect to the listeners but where

2514
01:49:53,790 --> 01:49:52,270
I'm getting a lot of people coming to

2515
01:49:56,190 --> 01:49:53,800
them turn now and the

2516
01:49:59,850 --> 01:49:56,200
imagine they're gonna say something and

2517
01:50:02,100 --> 01:49:59,860
I like in the second book there's a guy

2518
01:50:06,210 --> 01:50:02,110
there who swaps that lane for close to

2519
01:50:07,460 --> 01:50:06,220
30 years and he's got three stories in

2520
01:50:13,380 --> 01:50:07,470
30 years

2521
01:50:15,930 --> 01:50:13,390
yeah wouldn't it be great if man so

2522
01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:15,940
we've concentrated a book full of

2523
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:18,310
sightings but they're over a lot of

2524
01:50:24,420 --> 01:50:21,730
years and as everybody said seven days

2525
01:50:25,770 --> 01:50:24,430
in a week with 24 hours in a day and you

2526
01:50:28,110 --> 01:50:25,780
know we're only there for a little

2527
01:50:29,850 --> 01:50:28,120
snapshot and these things just Philip

2528
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:29,860
said earlier and we've all said they

2529
01:50:34,770 --> 01:50:32,890
don't perform to order and chances have

2530
01:50:37,620 --> 01:50:34,780
seen something a slim all we could all

2531
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:37,630
we do know is that in areas like the

2532
01:50:42,300 --> 01:50:40,330
area of Benton the areas of ice strange

2533
01:50:45,390 --> 01:50:42,310
to see the possibilities of seeing

2534
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:45,400
something now greater because because

2535
01:50:48,870 --> 01:50:47,770
people do see things in this area I'm

2536
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:48,880
not trying to discourage people from

2537
01:50:53,970 --> 01:50:51,610
looking come by all means but please

2538
01:50:55,650 --> 01:50:53,980
don't think that you these lights are

2539
01:50:57,180 --> 01:50:55,660
just gonna appear the first time you

2540
01:50:59,160 --> 01:50:57,190
look I know exactly what you saying

2541
01:51:01,260 --> 01:50:59,170
stalkers one with all the activity in

2542
01:51:04,110 --> 01:51:01,270
and around count morning in North

2543
01:51:05,700 --> 01:51:04,120
Yorkshire we tried our damndest I think

2544
01:51:09,390 --> 01:51:05,710
I've got a glimpse of it one night but

2545
01:51:13,410 --> 01:51:09,400
it was literally a glimpse and we tried

2546
01:51:15,870 --> 01:51:13,420
our best you know ticketed to UM we

2547
01:51:17,790 --> 01:51:15,880
always said if we could get something

2548
01:51:21,810 --> 01:51:17,800
personal we would confront it in the

2549
01:51:24,690 --> 01:51:21,820
best way we could but no now what you

2550
01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:24,700
know we just could not get a glimpse one

2551
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:28,560
we camped out that week in the caravan

2552
01:51:34,050 --> 01:51:31,330
when I came home I used to run on what

2553
01:51:36,210 --> 01:51:34,060
we called a UFO hotline it was it was an

2554
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:36,220
answer phone yeah but there was a

2555
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:39,730
actually a report on my answer film from

2556
01:51:44,460 --> 01:51:42,010
not far from where we were staying but

2557
01:51:46,110 --> 01:51:44,470
it was down in the valley so there was

2558
01:51:48,570 --> 01:51:46,120
from our vantage point there's nowhere

2559
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:48,580
we could see it anyway you know so it

2560
01:51:54,570 --> 01:51:51,280
was a bit you know a bit deflating that

2561
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:54,580
we straight out there for a week and yet

2562
01:51:59,340 --> 01:51:56,080
there was a sighting on the answer form

2563
01:52:03,170 --> 01:51:59,350
when we got home you know yet but we

2564
01:52:05,730 --> 01:52:03,180
used to give a kind of a fishing analogy

2565
01:52:06,070 --> 01:52:05,740
that we knew these things were there and

2566
01:52:07,420 --> 01:52:06,080
because

2567
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:07,430
you were there the increased your

2568
01:52:15,190 --> 01:52:10,730
chances of catching one you know yeah

2569
01:52:16,780 --> 01:52:15,200
so you're spot on my you really are and

2570
01:52:18,190 --> 01:52:16,790
if you obviously like yeah if you're in

2571
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:18,200
one of these areas where it is a little

2572
01:52:20,830 --> 01:52:19,760
bit more active you have got a chance

2573
01:52:24,850 --> 01:52:20,840
and all those people come in this

2574
01:52:27,370 --> 01:52:24,860
weekend and I'll go meet them - yes

2575
01:52:30,480 --> 01:52:27,380
pride in it tomorrow night and spend a

2576
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:30,490
few hours with them but sometimes feel

2577
01:52:36,790 --> 01:52:33,410
don't feel guilty cause it obviously I'm

2578
01:52:38,500 --> 01:52:36,800
know I've no say over when this thing's

2579
01:52:42,070 --> 01:52:38,510
gonna appear or when these things are

2580
01:52:44,230 --> 01:52:42,080
going to happen but yes I think it's

2581
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:44,240
just luck of the draw but I think we've

2582
01:52:49,690 --> 01:52:46,930
just about covered everything in 1998

2583
01:52:51,700 --> 01:52:49,700
Chris and anybody out there that does

2584
01:52:53,500 --> 01:52:51,710
have any information you know there's a

2585
01:52:55,390 --> 01:52:53,510
guy oh you interviewed a few years ago

2586
01:52:57,700 --> 01:52:55,400
well a lot of years ago called Nick

2587
01:53:00,280 --> 01:52:57,710
Miller's any other quite incredible

2588
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:00,290
exciting and I'm still trying to find

2589
01:53:06,850 --> 01:53:04,970
information about that well I sure I'm

2590
01:53:09,370 --> 01:53:06,860
gonna give it another girl Paul and see

2591
01:53:11,500 --> 01:53:09,380
if I can actually because as you

2592
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:11,510
yourself known Phil no I did several

2593
01:53:16,300 --> 01:53:14,570
years away from the subject and I'm

2594
01:53:18,730 --> 01:53:16,310
being responsible I didn't want to pass

2595
01:53:20,830 --> 01:53:18,740
the information on to anybody else even

2596
01:53:22,690 --> 01:53:20,840
though I should have done with insight

2597
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:22,700
and some people that I could have

2598
01:53:26,980 --> 01:53:25,010
trusted and but I didn't want to leave

2599
01:53:29,530 --> 01:53:26,990
information lying around with people's

2600
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:29,540
details on which could be used for other

2601
01:53:35,170 --> 01:53:32,090
purposes so I actually destroyed a lot

2602
01:53:37,630 --> 01:53:35,180
of information when I am yep - my shame

2603
01:53:40,480 --> 01:53:37,640
and horror when when I walked away from

2604
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:40,490
the subject for a while but am i will

2605
01:53:48,070 --> 01:53:42,530
give it another look but I can't promise

2606
01:53:50,620 --> 01:53:48,080
he'll find anything now just briefly say

2607
01:53:53,220 --> 01:53:50,630
this because it just totally brought in

2608
01:53:56,710 --> 01:53:53,230
people in 1998 but on the 12th of June

2609
01:53:59,500 --> 01:53:56,720
1998 tornado I think it was a t7 to

2610
01:54:02,230 --> 01:53:59,510
three crash ten miles off lumber ahead

2611
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:02,240
though of controversy when it crashed at

2612
01:54:08,860 --> 01:54:05,050
the time with Ag monks ufo-related

2613
01:54:10,930 --> 01:54:08,870
interested parties not myself talk of

2614
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:10,940
media blackout blackouts and everything

2615
01:54:16,780 --> 01:54:13,010
but I found something I'll get really

2616
01:54:18,940 --> 01:54:16,790
brief I found a lifeboat log dated the

2617
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:18,950
that was that crashed on the 12th of

2618
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:19,970
June I found

2619
01:54:28,270 --> 01:54:23,650
life don't log dated the 15th of July

2620
01:54:29,950 --> 01:54:28,280
1998 and I've got the log they kind

2621
01:54:31,660 --> 01:54:29,960
enough to let me have it where they went

2622
01:54:33,490 --> 01:54:31,670
black Baldwin's help to investigate a

2623
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:33,500
large dark object that descended from

2624
01:54:38,590 --> 01:54:36,050
their landed on the surface of the sea

2625
01:54:42,220 --> 01:54:38,600
seen by fishermen slipped below the sea

2626
01:54:45,790 --> 01:54:42,230
and um all this stuff's happening

2627
01:54:48,220 --> 01:54:45,800
we've also a torn sea coast guard talked

2628
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:48,230
of seeing the large black triangles fly

2629
01:54:52,570 --> 01:54:50,570
flying low over fields a military

2630
01:54:54,180 --> 01:54:52,580
roadblocks set up I haven't got a date

2631
01:54:58,180 --> 01:54:54,190
for that apart from it was the middle of

2632
01:55:01,390 --> 01:54:58,190
1998 I'm sorry about my talk today guys

2633
01:55:04,540 --> 01:55:01,400
been all 1998 what I'm just absolutely

2634
01:55:07,900 --> 01:55:04,550
no I I found it fascinating Paul as ever

2635
01:55:10,140 --> 01:55:07,910
but when I hear you speak be in person

2636
01:55:12,150 --> 01:55:10,150
or on the or on the phone or whatever

2637
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:12,160
thank you

2638
01:55:16,810 --> 01:55:15,170
it's same it's always very a very

2639
01:55:20,500 --> 01:55:16,820
interesting listening to you Paul and

2640
01:55:23,100 --> 01:55:20,510
talking with you and you know for me

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01:55:27,460 --> 01:55:23,110
you're one of the few investigators and

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01:55:29,980 --> 01:55:27,470
all for me puts the hundred and hundred

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01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:29,990
percent into everything that you do and

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01:55:34,780 --> 01:55:31,250
I think that is absolutely fantastic

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that you do that now I do know what our

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people will be interested in in what you

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01:55:42,490 --> 01:55:39,290
have to say at the Outer Limits magazine

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01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:42,500
conference conference 2019 which will be

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in Pontefract and if people really do

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01:55:49,150 --> 01:55:47,780
want to hear Paul and see Paul with

2651
01:55:51,190 --> 01:55:49,160
these fascinate the fascinating

2652
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:51,200
information that he brings over you

2653
01:55:56,830 --> 01:55:52,970
really do need to get your tickets as

2654
01:55:58,420 --> 01:55:56,840
soon as possible well that's the

2655
01:56:01,810 --> 01:55:58,430
conference I'm going to be talking about

2656
01:56:03,310 --> 01:56:01,820
this however it won't be a carbon copy

2657
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because I'm gonna try and make it a

2658
01:56:07,750 --> 01:56:05,450
little bit I'm an animator don't know I

2659
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:07,760
don't know what they project is like or

2660
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:10,250
the screen this year at 24 at work now

2661
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:12,050
that who are you that's fine I'll

2662
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trample the images together a mekin big

2663
01:56:19,180 --> 01:56:16,940
enough so everybody can see and will

2664
01:56:20,860 --> 01:56:19,190
when I'm talking about the industrial

2665
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:20,870
unit I'll have a picture of it with the

2666
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:22,730
names current names blanked out and

2667
01:56:26,770 --> 01:56:25,370
everything and yes you know just we'll

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01:56:28,660 --> 01:56:26,780
just animate it a little bit and

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01:56:32,740 --> 01:56:28,670
hopefully there'll be more information

2670
01:56:34,350 --> 01:56:32,750
by them but regardless I hope listeners

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01:56:37,629 --> 01:56:34,360
find it interest

2672
01:56:39,540 --> 01:56:37,639
I'm sure the will do absolutely now

2673
01:56:44,970 --> 01:56:39,550
speaking for myself

2674
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:44,980
Paul Sinclair investigator author

2675
01:56:52,540 --> 01:56:50,090
personal friend a gentleman oh I think

2676
01:56:55,989 --> 01:56:52,550
is one of the best investigators of this

2677
01:56:58,450 --> 01:56:55,999
phenomena in the world I would just like

2678
01:57:00,850 --> 01:56:58,460
to thank you on behalf of myself thank

2679
01:57:03,759 --> 01:57:00,860
you for speaking to us on inside of

2680
01:57:07,239 --> 01:57:03,769
limits and I'm sure yeah absolutely all

2681
01:57:09,220 --> 01:57:07,249
power to your pen mate and I look

2682
01:57:10,419 --> 01:57:09,230
forward to new books and I look forward

2683
01:57:13,180 --> 01:57:10,429
to seeing you in August at the

2684
01:57:16,330 --> 01:57:13,190
conference if not before okay you will

2685
01:57:18,279 --> 01:57:16,340
do and it's been a pleasure guys and if

2686
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:18,289
you feel like it bros a link to me books

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01:57:25,899 --> 01:57:23,690
on christmas you can do what I shall do

2688
01:57:27,970 --> 01:57:25,909
I shall put a little advert together for

2689
01:57:30,549 --> 01:57:27,980
you and put it on let excellent thank

2690
01:57:32,020 --> 01:57:30,559
you yeah well just before you go Paul

2691
01:57:35,589 --> 01:57:32,030
where can they get your book on the

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01:57:37,330 --> 01:57:35,599
books available on Amazon and failing

2693
01:57:39,069 --> 01:57:37,340
that just type in truth proof into

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Google it'll take you straight to them

2695
01:57:43,390 --> 01:57:42,110
and nothing I have a website which I'm

2696
01:57:45,489 --> 01:57:43,400
embarrassed to say I have a website

2697
01:57:47,439 --> 01:57:45,499
because I'm useless with social media or

2698
01:57:52,029 --> 01:57:47,449
anything like that but its truth proof

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webs calm and they go thank you the

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truth proof series of paranormal

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publications rim by Paul Sinclair are a

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01:58:02,470 --> 01:57:59,559
classic piece of citizen investigation

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strange lights in the sky people

2704
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disappearing big cats stalking the

2705
01:58:11,350 --> 01:58:08,480
landscape werewolves in the woods fairy

2706
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folk lore little humanoid creatures and

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landing UFOs all feature in this

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remarkable series of publications

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this really is high strangeness galore

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you can found Paul Sinclair and true

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proof one and two on Amazon how to

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limits magazine a police to present

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conference 2019 the closest of

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encounters at the Assembly Rooms

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Pontefract Town Hall Saturday 17th of

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August join Calvin Parker

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01:58:42,759 --> 01:58:41,030
Malcolm Robinson Philip Kinsella Paul

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Sinclair crew severs

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one or two special guests and one or two

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awards have doors open ten

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I am first speaker 10:30 a.m. and the

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day ends at 7:00 p.m.

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